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In September 18, 1810, Chile declared its independence... before war against Spain break out. 
This is just to remember this even, given my country's birthday is comming.

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And I celebrate here very lonely, listening to rock-folk music from my country...


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When did white settlement take place in Chile?
"Tá mé bródúil as mo oidhreacht na hÉireann".
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Congratulations!
That time of independence should make us cautious about terms as "New World" and "Old World". Many countries in the Americas became independent before a lot of those european nations that exist now.

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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

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When did white settlement take place in Chile?

Chile was invaded by Europeans in 1542. Now, I don't known to call them "white" because most Europeans that settled in Latin America were Iberians, with an important Italian group and smaller French, German, Irish and other minorities from the rest of Europe.
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Originally posted by fantasus fantasus wrote:

Congratulations!
That time of independence should make us cautious about terms as "New World" and "Old World". Many countries in the Americas became independent before a lot of those european nations that exist now.

Actually, that's true. Many Latin Americans countries are already two centuries old. Exceptions are Cuba and Brazil that become independent later, and Panama, that was a country manufactured by Uncle Sam. Some countries of the region, though, like Mexico and Peru were states already before the conquest. So, this "New" world is only relatively new Wink


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Happy birthday penguin. How are things in Chile at 204?
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Very good. Only the weather is playing a bit. Today we had a light rain. I hope tomorrow the sky will open, and we have a bright sun, so we could eat a barbecue outdoors, drink a glass of chicha (rought form of wine-beer) and rise some comets... If lucky I may even go to a Rodeo. As we usually do for the national hollydays. 

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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

Very good. Only the weather is playing a bit. Today we had a light rain. I hope tomorrow the sky will open, and we have a bright sun, so we could eat a barbecue outdoors, drink a glass of chicha (rought form of wine-beer) and rise some comets... If lucky I may even go to a Rodeo. As we usually do for the national hollydays. 

Rodeo eh? Horses and bulls I'm guessing, not llamas?

And strutting generals...those are now gone?
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Our Rodeo, actually, is a kind of soccer, where instead of a ball we put a cow. Actually, the game is to stop the animal. And with respect to llamas, they are fragile and cute animals. We would never force a llama to practice this sport. Watch the video.




(With respect to the generals, that's ancient history. We recovered democracy in 1989 which is more than 25 years ago actually, and since then ALL of the four criminals have died. I hope they are currently burning in hell)


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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:


Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

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When did white settlement take place in Chile?


Chile was invaded by Europeans in 1542. Now, I don't known to call them "white" because most Europeans that settled in Latin America were Iberians, with an important Italian group and smaller French, German, Irish and other minorities from the rest of Europe.


The Irish component were no doubt from the may Irishmen who followed the Earls when they fled-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_of_the_Wild_Geese
Quote Following the defeat of the Gaelic armies of the Nine Years' War, the "Flight of the Earls" took place in 1607. The Earl of Tyrone Hugh O'Neill, the Earl of Tyrconnell Rory O'Donnell and the Lord of Beare and Bantry, Donal O'Sullivan, along with many chiefs, Gallowglass, and their followers from Ulster, fled Ireland. They hoped to get Spanish help in order to restart their rebellion in Ireland, but King Philip III of Spain did not want a resumption of war with England and refused their request.

Nevertheless, their arrival led to the formation of a new Irish regiment in Flanders, officered by Gaelic Irish nobles and recruited from their followers and dependents in Ireland. This regiment was more overtly political than its predecessor in Spanish service and was militantly hostile to English Protestant rule of Ireland. The regiment was led by Hugh O'Neill's son John. Prominent officers included Owen Roe O'Neill and Hugh Dubh O'Neill.


Many of the Irish settled in Spanish communities both in Europe and South America-one such, by the name of Fox served as President of Mexico in recent times.
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Actually, we have a famous Irishman in Chilean history: Ambrosio O'Higgins, who was one of the last "Spanish" governors of Chile. His son, Bernardo O'Higgins, born in Chile to a Chilean mom, is our major independence's hero.

Ambrosio O'Higgins. Here in a Spanish post stamp.


Bernardo O'Higgins, Ambrosio's son, and father of Chilean independence.




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And Google also remembered Chile, in this doodle seen only in my country. It shows our flag, our meat filled pastries and our national soft drink: mote con huesillos (cooked wheat and peaches)... 
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