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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

We seem to have wandered off the path. 1960's music wasn't confined to "hippy" music and anti-war protest songs. There was a lot of other popular music out there-rock, country, folk and so on.

How about Chubby Checker, the Animals, the Beatles, Rolling Stones, and the list goes on, Glenn Campbell, Merle Haggard, Ray Charles and Johnny Cash. All had music well up in the charts of the time.



No we haven't wandered off the path. The music and the times are relevant.


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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

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I suppose I'm somewhat of a dichotemy.
Although I like the music, I marched in support of our troops during the Viet Nam War.
Make no mistake-I was, and still am, staunchly supporting our troops who go to war. I like the lyrics of most of the songs because they say just what I think, our troops doing as their country orders them, they joined knowing the likelihood of active service, but, nevertheless, now that I'm an old man, I don't see war as the means of bringing peace to the world.

Opinions change over the years don't they?

And we also had a rock star who was conscripted to serve in Viet Nam-which he did in a Cavalry Unit. His career was basically stuffed because of his service.




Yes toyomotor opinions do change, thankfully. People believed what they were told by the government and tried to trust the gov hoping for the greater good. The pursuit of war and the circumstances are not always what we have been told. We have learned not to trust and even "verify" seems out of the realm of possibility with info wars and current poor media standards.
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Listening to an audiobook these days, called something like, 'Detroit, the Tale of Great City,' about c. 1963 Detroit.  They talk about Motown, which of course I am vaguely familiar with, in the sense of never having studied it, but having heard it on the radio, in cafes, and in commercials all my life.  Also, Aretha Franklin, who wasn't part of the Motown label, but was the daughter of Rev. Franklin and was originally from Detroit.  But, I think that Malcolm X came from Detroit, or at least there were black nationalists active there, so not everything was sunny.  Romney the elder was governor of Michigan, and the Ford Mustang came out in 1964(??).  But, they could already tell that demographics of white flight to the suburbs and the loss of the employed in the city was going to undercut the tax base.

So who went into the Air Calvary?

toyomotor, I think that a lot of people love the idealism of the '60s, even though they don't think it is realistic.  The goals of the '60s are noble, but they are also very rare and very hard.  For example, "peace," we act like we know what it means, but when can we look at history and find a time that is truly peaceful? not just the breathing space after the conflict, or the time before the storm?  So, I think that a lot of people love the music of the sixties, but they are also aware that there is a simplicity (and purity) to the music that did not completely translate to everyday life.  Also, there are casualties of the sixties that have little to do with war, and everything to do with not having "guard rails" to keep people on the path.  If 'the man' says heroin is bad, then as an antiauthoritarian, let's do heroin.  But the music, and the diversity of the music is great for the imagination.  I think that with the '60s, American power, and culture was at its zenith, and a lot that was noble came out of that time, some things stayed in that time, and some still lives with us today.



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