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Oh darn it - I lost my bet - I had set on a 5:0 on the Germany - Australia match.
 
Usually the frist round games do not proof much or do not give such an insight. However I found Germany's defense as quite moderate - to poor. Schweinsteiger isn't supposed to be a defender and he almost had to do it all by himself. If Germany forwards the same performance towards first line teams - oh oh.Ouch
 
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Originally posted by Parnell Parnell wrote:




Well lets see:

Chelsea (Double winners) Lampard + Cole + Cole + Terry... Man Utd Scholes + Carrick + Rooney + Ferdinand... Arsenal Walcott.... Spurs Lennon + Huddlestone + Dawson + King + Crouch + Defoe City  Joe Hart + Michael Johnson + Micah Richards... Liverpool Glen Johnson + Carragher + Gerrard

I really don't think you have a case. Inter Milan for example won the Champions League final without a single Italian in the starting line up. This kind of thing has been said since the foreign influxes of the early 90s (Pale by modern standards) English players will continue to come on if they're good enough and will clearly benefit by more competition and learning first hand from some of the worlds best players.

As for teams saved from relegation by a technicality, I was obviously pointing out that the Hammers golden generation went on to be great players with their respective clubs. And I even left out Michael Carrick (Who is admittedly playing below his potential)



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Japan sunk Cameroon while Denmark lost against the Netherlands, giving a Japan a decent chance for qualification. Thumbs Up
 
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Originally posted by Reginmund Reginmund wrote:

Who else is rooting for North Korea today?

I'm no fan of Brazil by any means, but North Korea?
http://www.sbnation.com/2010/6/10/1509062/2010-world-cup-rankings-what-team-to-root-for
Quote 30. THE DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF KOREA: You just can't. I know, it might be ironic, like the a*****e hipster wearing a CCCP jacket to watch a match. Aren't the players trying just because they love the game? Sure they are, but they're not going over the fence to defect because the DPRK's government probably has their relatives under armed guard while they're abroad, and would do horrific things to them if they left. You might joke, "Ha ha, Italy's evil," but no, you can actually say "The DPRK is evil." It's a fact, and as a fan, rooting for them is simply not done no matter how many layers of irony you pile onto it.

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When it comes to NK, they have a really tough defense and an excellent GK.
 
Back in the qualifications we (Saudi Arabia that is) practically played the whole game in their half and failed to break the dead lock. But we must not forget that two of the best fowards were didn't play that day because they played for the wrong team in the league.
 
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The good thing about the North Koreans is that every country that beats them is automatically placed on Kim Yong Ils grudge list. They've got nukes. Brazil better watch out.
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A fantastic display of the beautiful game by Korea DPR, they surely did open up lots of eyes and made many think tanks go wrong with their takes on them as they had done it back in 66.
To hold on against the mighty Brazilians for the first 45' and then end up scoring against them is a thing that many historians will remember and coaches of Ports and Ivory will take notice of.

I have all the backing to bet on them against the Ports as what I say of the Ports today was no where near compared to what the Koreans displayed, specially taking in view whom they were playing against (with due respect to Ivorians whom I had bet on and think will proceed with Brazil from this group).



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I'm not very impressed. The Brazilians were playing without determination and yet the Koreans hardly touched the ball. The possession was 63-37, which is simply silly (compare with Germany-Australia 55-45 which ended up 4-0). I'd be very surprised if the Northkoreans end up with something else than zero points. 
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The real question is: did Maicon mean it? I say yes.
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They kept manning defense. I would not necessarily call semi-Italian tactics the beautiful game.
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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

The real question is: did Maicon mean it? I say yes.

He did. Amazing goal.

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Originally posted by Ziegenbartami Ziegenbartami wrote:

Originally posted by Reginmund Reginmund wrote:

Who else is rooting for North Korea today?

I'm no fan of Brazil by any means, but North Korea?
http://www.sbnation.com/2010/6/10/1509062/2010-world-cup-rankings-what-team-to-root-for
Quote 30. THE DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF KOREA: You just can't. I know, it might be ironic, like the a*****e hipster wearing a CCCP jacket to watch a match. Aren't the players trying just because they love the game? Sure they are, but they're not going over the fence to defect because the DPRK's government probably has their relatives under armed guard while they're abroad, and would do horrific things to them if they left. You might joke, "Ha ha, Italy's evil," but no, you can actually say "The DPRK is evil." It's a fact, and as a fan, rooting for them is simply not done no matter how many layers of irony you pile onto it.
 
I wasn't being ironic; I wanted them to win.
 
I assume this guy is joking though. He can't be serious with that "going over the fence to defect" and "DPRK is evil" nonsense.
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I was rooting for North Korea, they were representing the poor bastards that live there and I want them to have something to be happy about.

Brazil were lucky to get a win, the North koreans dug in and fought with pure grit and determination and compeltely stifled Brazil with a flat back of five.  The Brazilians ran out of ideas and Maicon's goal for me was more down to goalkeeper complacency, whether he meant it or not - the goal keeper's angle was all wrong and he was posturing impudently, expecting him to fluff it up.
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The time of possession and shots are in Spain's favor but in this world cup goals are precious. 
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God damn Censored Censored Censored.

This is the team that is supposed to win the world cup?
 
They should take them to nearest wild life refuse and feed them to the lions. AngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngry
 
On the other hand, Good job SwitzerlandClap.  I hope they and Chile top this group.
 
 
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Bwahaha, Switzerland defeated Spain. I lost my bet, but I'm kinda happy they did. They played nicely. 
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I can't believe that Spain lost to Switzerland!
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Spain had 74% of possession, and 25 shots, and the still managed to lose - that's just embarrassing. They can and should still win the group, but this was just pitiful.

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After Chile's performance today, I doubt it.
 
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I'd say Germany's looking more and more to be a clear favorite to win Wink
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Hello to you all
 
Here is the picture after the first round of the group stage, other than Germany and the catastrophic performance of the Spaniards there is no major surprises. So far only Germany shines and if they continue to do so they will probably win this tournament:

Group stage

Group A W D L GD PTS
Mexico 0 1 0 0 1
South Africa 0 1 0 0 1
France 0 1 0 0 1
Uruguay 0 1 0 0 1
Group B W D L GD PTS
South Korea 1 0 0 2 3
Argentina 1 0 0 1 3
Nigeria 0 0 1 -1 0
Greece 0 0 1 -2 0
Group C W D L GD PTS
Slovenia 1 0 0 1 3
England 0 1 0 0 1
USA 0 1 0 0 1
Algeria 0 0 1 -1 0
Group D W D L GD PTS
Germany 1 0 0 4 3
Ghana 1 0 0 1 3
Serbia 0 0 1 -1 0
Australia 0 0 1 -4 0
Group E W D L GD PTS
Netherlands 1 0 0 2 3
Japan 1 0 0 1 3
Cameroon 0 0 1 -1 0
Denmark 0 0 1 -2 0
Group F W D L GD PTS
Italy 0 1 0 0 1
New Zealand 0 1 0 0 1
Paraguay 0 1 0 0 1
Slovakia 0 1 0 0 1
Group G W D L GD PTS
Brazil 1 0 0 1 3
Ivory Coast 0 1 0 0 1
Portugal 0 1 0 0 1
North Korea 0 0 1 -1 0
Group H W D L GD PTS
Chile 1 0 0 1 3
Switzerland 1 0 0 1 3
Honduras 0 0 1 -1 0
Spain 0 0 1 -1 0
 
(Credit to BBC sport for the table)
 
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Originally posted by Al Jassas Al Jassas wrote:

After Chile's performance today, I doubt it.
 
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Yeah, Chile were fantastic. The playmaker number 14 (can't remember his name) looks like a brilliant player. Great on the set piece as well.

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Don't jump to conclusions about who's going to win or lose it based on first group matches.  If you've experienced more than two world cups you might have taken note that the teams who usually start slowest or with narrow wins finish the strongest.
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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

Originally posted by Al Jassas Al Jassas wrote:

After Chile's performance today, I doubt it.
 
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Yeah, Chile were fantastic. The playmaker number 14 (can't remember his name) looks like a brilliant player. Great on the set piece as well.



Chile vs Spain will be a completely different game to Chile vs Honduras.

But I was impressed with Chile.
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I was rooting for North Korea, they were representing the poor bastards that live there and I want them to have something to be happy about.
 
Don't worry about that. I spoke to a guy yesterday who's well studied on North Korean matters and he told me that regardless of how North Korea performs in the WC the official (and legal) story will be that they won the entire competition.
 
I wouldn't be surprised to hear Kim Jong Il scored all the goals either.
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Well they should pick up the broadcasts in South Korea.  So we will see, eventually.  A numberof their player (I think three) play abroad too, one in Japan.  I found that surprising.
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Hat-trick for Higuain! Messi with that last assist. Beautiful stuff. Didn't see this blow out coming at all.
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Well, apparently Greece is capable of offense. Before the World Cup, I'd have been surprised had they scored two goals in the whole tournament, let alone in one match. On the other hand, they play Argentina next, so those might be the only goals they score in the whole tournament Tongue
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Congrats to our Greece fans. A well deserved win. One caveat - the score would most likely have been different had the Nigerian player not received the red card. 
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True that.
Nigeria seemed to lose spirit, after losing a player to red card and then players to injuries.
Greece is slow and static. Numerical superiority allowed Greece to hide this disadvandage.
Defense was not very good, I really fear the game with Argentina. Offense was not very productive, but that's Rehagel's fault. Greece has some good attackers (generally Greek attackers are more talented than the defenders), but Rehagel has some allergy with offense. Gekas was desperately isolated today (as also even more in the previous game), and in the end Rehagel took him out! No striker for Greece in the final minutes!
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