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Arcane inscription on a church in Genoa (Italy)

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    Posted: 16 Jul 2016 at 12:39
Hi everybody

Walking around Genova in Italy I found this numerals (?) on the back of a church above the abse ( Basilica di Santa Maria delle vigne - translated as Holy Mary of the vineyards ) .
Initially I thought about some Armenian or Ethiopian numbers which indicate the year of the restoration and therefore the origin of the money needed for the job. But I couldn't translate them using any symbols in either languages. The first traces of the church date back to the 10th century, but looking at the architectural details around that point and the plaster below it, the restoration work could have been done between the 16th and 18th century. So the year could be 15.. or 17.. Something like that.



Here are some links to know something more about the church ( sorry they are just in Italian, but a poor Wikipedia English page can also be found )

Sorry for the quality of the picture but the limit of 100k is really low :)

http://www.basilicadellevigne.it/index.php
https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_di_Santa_Maria_delle_Vigne
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Maria_delle_Vigne

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1506? 1526?  Look at renaissance numbers derived from Arabic numbers.
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Thanks for the reply. Have you any reference or example to show cause I've been looking for weeks with no luck. I also tried to interpret the year and I could also agree with you, but what intrigued me the most is the unique way they were written. Usually on these kinds of buildings back then the only numerals used were the Roman ones.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote franciscosan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2016 at 02:30
When I say "arabic numbers," I don't mean what we use today, I mean what historically our "Arabic" numbers are based on.  I have seen renaissance coins with the first dates on them, and the numbers look like our numbers, sort of, kind of like these look like 'our' numbers, sort of.

You might look up something like the 'history of numbers.'  What you have looks suspiciously like a date, with the first number being "1".  If it is a date then the strangeness of the numerals might be explained by the fact that it is early in the adoption of "arabic" numbers and therefore they resemble the way Arabic numbers are written, more then the numbers we do now.  You might just look up Arabic numbers and see how much or how little they resemble ours.
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