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    Posted: 08 Mar 2014 at 03:14
Until very recently, people were arriving in Australia by boat from Indonesia by the hundreds per week.
 
Most of these people had no passports or identification at all, despite having crossed many national borders to get to Indonesia.
 
The Australian government, originally, was housing these people in Detention Centres in Australia until their bona fides could be established and a decision made as to whether they could stay or not.
 
But the people kept arriving anyway.
 
The current Australian Liberal government, in an attempt to dissuade these immigrants, decided that they would be housed on the soil of other countries, such a New Guinea, until their identities and bona fides could be corroborated. The arrivals have basically stopped.
 
And why wouldn't they? New Guinea doesn't have the overly generous Welfare System that Australia has, it provides no real employment potential, and the presence of the immigrants is creating tensions with the local tribes.
 
New Guinea, by Australian standards is impoverished, lacks law and order, health, housing and educational support.
 
Why would the immigrants want to go there?
 
 


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The arrivals haven't stopped. The reporting of them has been stopped.

They are still coming, despite being sent to camps in PNG, because they are fleeing from worse. Ultimately you can only stop the flow of refugees by being worse than what they are fleeing from and by making that public knowledge.

As a citizenship test, personally I think that having the capability and the guts to get to Australia by boat is pretty good. These are people who would rather die than not be Australian. I think we should accept boat people and then deport self-important layabouts instead.
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Also, if you pay close attention to the rhetoric, you'll discover that it's not the people that the government is trying to stop, it's the boats. They are boatophobes. To the extent that Abbot is even giving away boats to Sri Lanka and Indonesia in his attempt to get rid of them, and at one point threatened to destroy all the boats in Indonesia until the Indos told him to f-off. He even changed the maritime laws about Australian crews on intra-Aus commercial shipping in attempt to chase more boats away from Australia.
Bottom line, this is all about Boats, not people. I suspect he's putting the people in PNG so that they can swim here at a later date and don't need to resort to boats again.
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Originally posted by Omar al Hashim Omar al Hashim wrote:

Also, if you pay close attention to the rhetoric, you'll discover that it's not the people that the government is trying to stop, it's the boats. They are boatophobes. To the extent that Abbot is even giving away boats to Sri Lanka and Indonesia in his attempt to get rid of them, and at one point threatened to destroy all the boats in Indonesia until the Indos told him to f-off. He even changed the maritime laws about Australian crews on intra-Aus commercial shipping in attempt to chase more boats away from Australia.
Bottom line, this is all about Boats, not people. I suspect he's putting the people in PNG so that they can swim here at a later date and don't need to resort to boats again.
 
 
Well, that's one school of thought.
 
Of course it's the people the Prime Minister wants to stop, but sending them to New Guinea, in my mind, raises another entry scenario. People from New Guinea have been crossing the Torres Strait to get to Cairns in Northern Queensland for medical treatment for decades. Fisherman in canoes or small boats have been travelling to Australian waters from both Indonesia and New Guinea for many centuries.
 
By using a 4metre aluminium dinghy, the so called "boat people" can island hop across the Strait easily. Although there are Customs Officers stationed on some of the islands, they could not effectively prevent unlawful immigrants from reaching northern Australia.
 
I don't know if the Australian government thought of that.
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