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    Posted: 21 May 2016 at 05:35
On the 23 June of this year, the people of the UK will vote in a referendum on whether or not to remain within the EU. Much as I will miss using my British passport to travel to other EU states slightly more conveniently, I sincerely hope the British people vote to leave this unaccountable and monstrous bureaucratic leviathan's stomach and emerge once against free to steer their own course as an independent nation state.

If anyone is interested, I highly recommend this documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0

Edit: I can't get the link to work. Just copy/paste to your URL browser.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0

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It's going to get increasingly emotive of the next few weeks. Today I saw an 'expert' on BBC news telling us that DIY will suffer if we leave. Pardon me?

Already there's a lot of nonsense. Security for instance, with claims that leaving the EU will leave the UK less secure. How? All our intelligence relationships are with individual countries, not the EU mechanisms. The same applies to trade deals, with voices in America saying we won't get first place in trade deals with the US if we leave, ignoring the fact we don't have any trade deals with the US now. On the other hand, one newspaper reports that if we stay a EuroUnion member Turkey will result in 12 million migrants entering the UK and competing for low level employment and health care.

Of course there's always going to be an element of swings and roundabouts. Intellectually my head says stay in. Emotionally it says get out. I haven't voted in the UK since the 1980's. I think I might make an exception in June.
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I watched the movie a few days ago.

I think it is time to send the message that the "intelligentsia" is out of control and more paperwork does not mean more results.  I would vote out for the same reason I'm voting for Trump.  The bureaucrats and career politicians are the new parasitic priesthood.  The new religion is "scientific" socialism.  The people who want to stay in are basically sending the same message that Trump opponents are using which is that the average person is too stupid to manage their own lives.  The EU is a great idea ruined by a lack of accountability on the part of those running it.
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One of the best quotes from the movie:

"There are a number of EU officials paid more than the British Prime Minister. But how many? 4? 10? 100? Well it's actually 10,000. 10,000 EU officials are paid more than the British PM - which accounts for 1/5 of their entire workforce".

But really I want the British to leave the EU because the same corrupt and tyrannical powers that benefit from EU membership are also the ones which own and manipulate the mass media. Removing funding from British taxpayers will pair nicely with the victory of the British public definitively refusing to allow themselves to be manipulated by establishment media propaganda. And when the British economy picks up as a result, this will plant in the minds of the more intelligent UK people that seeking out alternative information sources in the future is the way to go.

Provided that is that the UK votes to go their own way. Here's hoping.
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Mass media manipulation? Oh please... Of course influential or powerful factions want positive messages sent out and to some degree the media is compliant in a sort of 'you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours'. But never ever underestimate how willing the media is to prosecute an idea of their own if they smell a rat. Should say a government agency require news be restrained or directed to avoid complications that would affect society, such as the need to maintain security, well, that's largely unavoidable if you want a quiet life. But if that agency is up to no good, sooner or later someone is going to blow the whistle on it. That's how the free press functions. Remember that newspapers were rarely in politicans pockets. Only a year or two ago I watched a tearful reporter on Russia Today declare she would not bow to government pressure because she wanted to say what she believed.
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Of course one of the most influential and powerful factions is the regressive left and neo Marxist collectivism.  Neither the media nor the bureaucrats are much interested in meritocracy.
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Quote Of course one of the most influential and powerful factions is the regressive left and neo Marxist collectivism. Neither the media nor the bureaucrats are much interested in meritocracy.

Not in Britain. There is a degree of left wing view, and always has been, but this has a softer socialist slant than any hard line Marxist agenda. The British tend not to like extremist policies.
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Well, the words out, the UK has voted to leave the European Union. Counting is yet to be completed but it is known that Northern Ireland voted to stay, while Scotland voted to leave.

From the BBC
Quote The UK has voted to leave the EU by 52% to 48%. Leave won the majority of votes in England and Wales, while every council in Scotland saw remain majorities. 

England

Leave 14,770,365
VOTES
Remain 12,938,698
VOTES
5 results left to declare
Turnout: 72.9%

Northern Ireland

Leave 349,442
VOTES
Remain 440,437
VOTES
Counting complete
Turnout: 62.9%

Scotland

Leave 1,018,322
VOTES
Remain 1,661,191
VOTES
Counting complete
Turnout: 67.2%

Wales

Leave 854,572
VOTES
Remain 772,347
VOTES
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Hell yeahhhhhh! Long live the Queen! Rule Britannia!

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@Constantine XI:-

You've gone OTT on this post. There's no need to resort to bad language, and of course the rest of your post amounts to a rant, nothing more.

Regardless of your political leanings, it's still too early to know what the actual effects on Australia will be-trade wise, migration and so on.

I don't know what the actual ramifications will be for the UK, they are many and various, including the potential for Ireland to finally be united. But then neither do you.

The next Prime Minister of England will need to work out all of the details with the European Union and it will take two years or more of negotiations before the situation is anywhere near clear.




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CXI - will you please moderate your post. It is way beyond  what we expect from other members, and as moderator you should know better.  This is not your personal avenue to spill out venom and unessesary abuse - keep it civil please.

The best you can do is delete your post and try again.

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You know what - the first part of my post didn't even contain proper swear words. I blanked out all but the first and last letters. And it was pretty obvious that they were simple exclamations - not directed at anyone at all.

I'll delete that. But I'm not touching the rest of my post and will resist any effort to censor it. If you don't like my opinions, that's your problem.


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And you think this statement is innocent?

The parasite class (Remain camp), made up of international corporatists, narcissistic middle class folk addicted to their media-fed propaganda, non-loyal citizens with foreign loyalties, and the welfare class whose particular concentration in the Maoist cesspool of a sub-state that we know as Scotland saw large majority votes on that part of the island.

If you dont see it, then Ill tell you it isnt. - you are degrading half of britains population because they have another view than you....

I'll give you timer to think it over...

   
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So I think that large numbers of people in a society exist as parasites upon the system. And you don't think that's accurate. We disagree. Big deal.

It's my perspective and it breaks no rules to express it. You have no grounds to censor me.

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CXI you are in violation of COC 7B5:

5. Rude insults, defamatory remarks,

You are calling half of britains population parasites, narcisstic and a bunch of more degrading titles.

Again, I will advice you to change your post or I will find it necessary to do it for you.

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I disagree with your assessment. You are taking a far too liberal interpretation of a piece of the Code of Conduct, for reasons which are very clearly personal.

Calling large numbers of people "parasites" or "parasitic" is not necessarily rude or defamatory. Any more than calling people in hospital beds "sick" is defamatory. "Parasite" is a descriptive adjective which I have applied to large numbers of people in British society who happen to vote for bigger government interests and in simple economic terms produce far less than they consume. So you've completely misunderstood the meaning of the word and are now trying to censor me for using it. By the way, I'm a British citizen myself and I'll should be free to describe my own people however I see fit.

I did not make a single ad-hominem, nor was my post malicious. You are essentially saying here that no one is allowed to make any remark which has a negative connotation to it. Because otherwise you personally may choose to take an overly sensitive interpretation to the remark's intent and content. This is tyrranical and unjust.

What you are doing to me right now is completely devoid of any due process - it all comes down to an autocratic dictatorship in which you and you alone have all the power. This is especially unfair given the fact that in the past I have contributed monetary donations to keep this website afloat.

I have not made a decision on what to do about my post yet. It is very late and I wish to sleep on it. You do not have my permission to alter my post in any way before I make a decision tomorrow.


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Allright - you won't see reason, now instead you attack me calling me dictator.  

I seldom mingle with debates here, but you are out of control and it has nothing to do with whatever contribution were given in the past. For the last couple of years I have paid most of the upkeep, but that doesnt give me rights to call every Aussie a parasite criminal, convict or even worse.
I know exactly what a parasite is, and if you invent your own meaning doesnt change a thing.

I will delete you post.

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Well then you are behaving exactly like a dictator. Clearly you have no respect for freedom of expression. And it is my judgement that you have behaved like an autocrat.

I've been a member of this online community for 11 years - I'm the second longest serving member here after you. And I'm a member of staff - I know exactly how the disciplinary process works and how we apply the Code of Conduct. Which is why I can say with absolute certainty that you have ignored our conventions to pursue your own very petty agenda. The post I made above is nothing more than a laughable pretext for you to start censoring me for reasons that have nothing to do with rules and everything to do with your own personal aims.

The only one behaving inappropriately here is you. And most other members here will see that for themselves.


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Yes - I took the decision - but don't forget who suggested and created the minefield - I did - and made all the forbidden subjects free to discuss - I did.  Who brought the Council in place - I did - exactly to keep us admins out of cases like this. 
But we are too few to maintain a normal staff and council - so I did it.

 I have done hundred things more over the years ....  but that doesnt give me any rights to say what I want if I break the CoC... - you broke it, its simple as that.

The other members are free to state their opinion.

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Some thoughts on this mornings decision:

There are quite a few ignorant people in the world. Ignorant in the sense of allowing themselves to be unmotivated, or lazy, or fearful of examining important aspects of their existence in any great depth, and instead reveling in easy, knee jerk reactions that only feel good for a very short time.

Having an educated and relatively affluent society does not guarantee an escape from this phenomena.

This is particularly ironic in today's information age, where knowledge is literally at one's fingertips.


On Mr C's overly exuberant victory dance:

Here is a definition of parasite from Merriam-Webster-  "a person or thing that takes something from someone or something else and does not do anything to earn it or deserve it"

Here again is irony write large. Recent times have seen the wealth of society skew ever more to the rentier class, to a very few fortunates at the apex of power in western countries, including the UK. Many of those who voted against the EU expressed anger at this inequality in various ways, not realizing that there target was misplaced.

Historian Margaret MacMillan offers a comment on the vote:

"..The Britain of the future (and perhaps we will start calling it England) will be smaller, poorer, possibly meaner, and certainly less relevant in the world. That is only partly a problem for the British themselves. What should concern us all is what it means for the rest of us. The EU has been dealt a blow, perhaps a mortal one. Ms. Le Pen has already said she wants a referendum on French membership and other right-wing parties around Europe are following suit. It is not inconceivable that the EU will fall to pieces. Russian President Vladimir Putin must be laughing his head off in the Kremlin..."


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What was that E thingy on the ballot again mate? Oh, the EU.............oh,oh.....now we've put are foot in it...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/06/24/the-british-are-frantically-googling-what-the-eu-is-hours-after-voting-to-leave-it/
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Constantine:-

Mate, what has come over you lately, your whole attitude seems to have changed.

No-one denies you the right to an opinion and to express that opinion, but there's no needs to use bad language and insulting language about people who don't share your view. As I said in my last post, no-one, not even the remaining English government can say with any clarity what will happen over the next two years. In mentioning two years, that is the notice required of the European Union for a member nation to advise of it's intention to leave the union.

I'm sorry, but your post being complained of, apart from the bad language and offensive comments, is just plain premature and wrong. The world will have to wait to find out what shape England, in fact the entire UK, will re-emerge in.

By now you will have read that David Cameron, English Prime Minister, has resigned as PM, and there is a possibility that the ex Lord Mayor of London, Boris Johnson, will be the next PM. Who knows, certainly not you or me.


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toyomotor, you reacted exactly as I expected you to. And that's not a compliment.

I'd like to hear what the other members here think of how Northman has treated me.
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Originally posted by Constantine XI Constantine XI wrote:

toyomotor, you reacted exactly as I expected you to. And that's not a compliment.

I'd like to hear what the other members here think of how Northman has treated me.

OK, I don't intend to carry on with this except to say that Northman was correct in what he said.

Whatever your problem is, I hope you get over it soon.
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Brexit is a rejection of the cult of regressive leftism. It is a rejection of failed socialist policies that have in increased the number of UK people in poverty over the last decade.

Yes it is a rejection of the shallow intellectualism and incompetence of the political class and bureaucracy. The question is if the religion of Marxist equality really isn't the real ignorance.
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Originally posted by wolfhnd wolfhnd wrote:

Brexit is a rejection of the cult of regressive leftism. It is a rejection of failed socialist policies that have in increased the number of UK people in poverty over the last decade.

Yes it is a rejection of the shallow intellectualism and incompetence of the political class and bureaucracy. The question is if the religion of Marxist equality really isn't the real ignorance.


Yep I have to be impressed with England rejecting a regressive leftism that in truth is a market I worth $16.6 trillion a year, It is a single Market of 500m people. With that is constituent members have the ability to freely buy and sell products within that market. As far at the UK goes its membership of that market has seen trade increase in the UK by 50% since joining. I read this on one internet site that “In 2009 $207bn of the UK’s total of $293bn of exports to the rest of the EU27 was used as inputs to industries, rather than being consumed directly; and the UK imported $161bn of intermediates from the EU27 in 2009. Imported intermediates are important even to domestically-focused sectors: the health & social care sector used $19bn of imported intermediates (principally of pharmaceuticals and other chemicals).” I have also read that the EU is 23% of the global economy. Imagine that!!! Free trade within a quarter of the entire world’s economy. A free enterprisers delight I would have thought.

That through 30 trade deals recently negotiated by the EU, including the actual Single Market itself, business within that market have full access to what is expected to grow to be an eventual $24 trillion market. It is thought that if recent growth continues exponentially that the market itself will be $47 trillion. To gain access you have to be part of that union.

Apparently “Investment flows across borders inside the EU have roughly doubled following the introduction of this Single Market. As the EU’s leading investment destination, the UK was a key beneficiary. The EU accounted for 47% of the UK’s stock of inward FDI at the end of 2011, with investments worth over $1.2 trillion.” Wow looks like leftism to me!

I am of the opinion that the citizens of the US have not a clue as to what leftism/Marxism is.
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Originally posted by es_bih es_bih wrote:

Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Constantine:-

Mate, what has come over you lately, your whole attitude seems to have changed.





He unplugged from the Matrix.

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Originally posted by es_bih es_bih wrote:

Originally posted by Northman Northman wrote:

And you think this statement is innocent?

The parasite class (Remain camp), made up of international corporatists, narcissistic middle class folk addicted to their media-fed propaganda, non-loyal citizens with foreign loyalties, and the welfare class whose particular concentration in the Maoist cesspool of a sub-state that we know as Scotland saw large majority votes on that part of the island.

If you dont see it, then Ill tell you it isnt. - you are degrading half of britains population because they have another view than you....

I'll give you timer to think it over...


North, everything he said there is true. Most people that voted to remain in the EU are young and highly ignorant of actual issues. This is the best avenue for the UK. Maybe now if they play their cards right they can be Britain again.

And the old boys dreaming of rule Britannia in the good old days, and voting to leave were well informed of the issues? Britain will be a bit player in a big world, one vastly different from the days when it held a central role. Even the EU in total represents less than on quarter of the world economy, a figure likely to atrophy more in the future.

Britain will have to negotiate, or renegotiate trade agreements with much larger economies or trading blocs that will have no particular reason to concede favorable terms. Uncertainty may well limit foreign investment, and undermine the value of the pound.

They may be able to limit immigration, the big concern of the leave crowd, but that was never really a key issue, merely an emotional one. Immigrants take jobs, but they also spend and create demand, hence increased economic activity. 


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