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Poll Question: What will happen to Zhengong?
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    Posted: 23 Jun 2012 at 11:37
在財富的害處,而是一件好事永遠不持續。我在和平中仅居住在新的風下。 Wei Jia Hong No harm in wealth, but a good thing doesn't last forever. I live only among peace under
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I think that China should rebuild imperial and feudal society. It worked for us for 2130 years.
在財富的害處,而是一件好事永遠不持續。我在和平中仅居住在新的風下。 Wei Jia Hong No harm in wealth, but a good thing doesn't last forever. I live only among peace under
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I think sooner or later, China will become a democratic society. Democracy grows with GDP, and I don't think educated and wealthy new generations will accept the communist party rule forever. It didn't happens in the Soviet Union, and I don't think will happen in China either.
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If China becomes a true republic again, will it use the same system that was tried after imperialism?
在財富的害處,而是一件好事永遠不持續。我在和平中仅居住在新的風下。 Wei Jia Hong No harm in wealth, but a good thing doesn't last forever. I live only among peace under
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Based on the Kuomintang? I doubt it. If it is to become a truly representative democratic republican form of government, the first thing that would probably need too happen is the hoped for peaceful reconciliation between the mainland communist government and the government on Taiwan based on both mutually recognizing the right of existence of both parties and any other political parties that are to be established in the future, plus a right to hold national elections too sort out the style of government that the Chinese people need or desire for themselves. But that seems a long time away.

 Is the communist government willing too allow the existence of multiple political parties in challenging it in national elections? I don't know. If by modernization of China you mean a progression in Chinese law that forces the communists government into recognizing the fundamental rights of it's citizens to protest against them and peacefully replace their style of government with a differing political party, or even re-elect them as the Chinese people may feel the need too and  at their own choosing, then i will vote for that one. 
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The problem is that the communist government will not allow any political parties to be powerful. The other parties are not equally represented, and are highly scrutinized.
在財富的害處,而是一件好事永遠不持續。我在和平中仅居住在新的風下。 Wei Jia Hong No harm in wealth, but a good thing doesn't last forever. I live only among peace under
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Well, in the Soviet Union, the party didn't allow other political parties, either. However, the economic crisis made them to change.
While China keeps growing it won have political changes, I guess, because people won't push for them. However, sooner or later there will be an economic crisis that will change matters in China.
It could also happens that Taiwan get integrated to China with the same democratic regime, like Hong Kong. If that happens, people in mainland China will start to wonder why those provinces can be democratic but the rest of the country can't. That will start the change, I guess.


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That is a similar theory as mine. In my theory, one of 2 things will happen.
1. China will realize how corrupt their current government is, and remember how slightly more pleasent under the Aisin Gioro clan at its beginning and renew the imperialist ways with the figure head of either Jin Youzhi (clan leader) or R. Jin Xing F. (technical emperoras pretendance), and adding a few  modernization to trdition,(no queues, no traditional clothing, etc.)
 2. China will grow tired of communism as they did with many dynastic families before, and try a Republic again with various alterations and ammendments to the southern Kuomingtang and northern warlords of the old republic of 1912-1948. And it is possible that the government may be a mix of a republic, imperial feudalism, and communism altogether.
 
在財富的害處,而是一件好事永遠不持續。我在和平中仅居住在新的風下。 Wei Jia Hong No harm in wealth, but a good thing doesn't last forever. I live only among peace under
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Originally posted by Lao Tse Lao Tse wrote:

That is a similar theory as mine. In my theory, one of 2 things will happen.
1. China will realize how corrupt their current government is, and remember how slightly more pleasent under the Aisin Gioro clan at its beginning and renew the imperialist ways with the figure head of either Jin Youzhi (clan leader) or R. Jin Xing F. (technical emperoras pretendance), and adding a few  modernization to trdition,(no queues, no traditional clothing, etc.)
 2. China will grow tired of communism as they did with many dynastic families before, and try a Republic again with various alterations and ammendments to the southern Kuomingtang and northern warlords of the old republic of 1912-1948. And it is possible that the government may be a mix of a republic, imperial feudalism, and communism altogether.
 

But since your last post, there have been major changes in China.

Capitalism is growing in China, as the rest of the country sees the advantages that Hong Kong has.

Just how far the government will allow this to progress is yet to be seen.

It is be noted that President Xi has made visits to countries which were once forbidden and new markets have opened up within China for oversea goods. China has become a major trading partner for  number of countries.

Notwithstanding the brutal put down of the Tienamen Square protests, I would not be surprised to see China move further towards democracy in the future.


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Quote I think sooner or later, China will become a democratic society
Wishful thinking. I hardly expect the ruling party to give up power in one of the world's most developing nations and their behaviour previously has shown they have limited patience for public influence.
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