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Comancheria: The Rise of the Comanches

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    Posted: 30 Nov 2012 at 15:50
A brief synopsis 16 century to the dawn of the 19th century:

Breaking off from the Shoshones shortly before or after the 16th century Wyoming. The introduction of the Horse to the Americas and the acquisition of these horses from the Pueblos in the late 17th century for the newly formed Comanche tribe gave them greater mobility and range of hunting grounds.

This mobility and hunting range being greatly expanded had taken them south into the great plains. This expansion, along with the abundance of meat from buffaloes, adopting captives from rival tribes and immigrants from the Shoshone saw the population increase significantly by the late 1700's. Some historians believe the Comanche expansion southward was due to the desire in acquiring more horses rather than any other necessity. Personally, I think it was a mixture of both.

The Comanche themselves had never formed a single cohesive tribe with one chief at it's head. Rather, they were mostly made up of a dozen autonomous bands that shared the same language and culture. This culture, the culture of the horse was the center theme in Comanche life, It was fed by the roughly 2 feral million horses out of a Comanche population of roughly 40 thousand at the time. With such a lifestyle built around the horse, it is no surprise that a Comanche required to have one horse on hand at any given moment.

Because of the horse culture, the Comanche developed strategies and tactics around traditional weapons by incorporating them with the horse, which  made them the preeminent warriors on horse back in North America with their main enemies being Spain, Mexico, Lipan Apaches and eventually in time the Americans.

Below is a mapped extent of the Comancheria

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I have a quick question that is likely extremely stupid. The Comancheros were the same as Comanches right?
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Originally posted by Lao Tse Lao Tse wrote:

I have a quick question that is likely extremely stupid. The Comancheros were the same as Comanches right?

asking even "stupid" questions is better since they help you learn rather then sitting their pretending you know...
Anyways, the Comancheros were normally the new Hispanic traders in New Mexico who traded with the nomadic plains tribes. They were named Comansheros because they traded on the Comanche land who were also their best customers.
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Originally posted by Po-Binnasaur Po-Binnasaur wrote:

Originally posted by Lao Tse Lao Tse wrote:

I have a quick question that is likely extremely stupid. The Comancheros were the same as Comanches right?

asking even "stupid" questions is better since they help you learn rather then sitting their pretending you know...
Anyways, the Comancheros were normally the new Hispanic traders in New Mexico who traded with the nomadic plains tribes. They were named Comansheros because they traded on the Comanche land who were also their best customers.
 
Ahaa, thats what a Commanshero is! Thanks for the answer, I needed to help my great-granddaughter for a Westward Expansion and the American-Indians vs. U.S. Thats going to help a lot Smile
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Panther, reference this:  "The Comanche themselves had never formed a single cohesive tribe with one chief at it's head. Rather, they were mostly made up of a dozen autonomous bands that shared the same language and culture."

I believe that description fits the majority of, if not all,  Plains tribes.
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Originally posted by lirelou lirelou wrote:

Panther, reference this:  "The Comanche themselves had never formed a single cohesive tribe with one chief at it's head. Rather, they were mostly made up of a dozen autonomous bands that shared the same language and culture."

I believe that description fits the majority of, if not all,  Plains tribes.

I think that fits for most tribes both plains and coastal, I know the Nez Pierce were plains people and had chiefs for every one of their bands who sometime met up with other Nez pierce chiefs, same going for the Makah who were coastal and had chiefs but above them were higher chiefs which was based on their wealth, it wasn't like one person in charge, then again i don't know too much about American Indians throughout all the U.S
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Originally posted by Po-Binnasaur Po-Binnasaur wrote:

Originally posted by Lao Tse Lao Tse wrote:

I have a quick question that is likely extremely stupid. The Comancheros were the same as Comanches right?

asking even "stupid" questions is better since they help you learn rather then sitting their pretending you know...
Anyways, the Comancheros were normally the new Hispanic traders in New Mexico who traded with the nomadic plains tribes. They were named Comansheros because they traded on the Comanche land who were also their best customers.


Indeed, i don't believe there is such a thing as stupid questions amongst friends.
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Originally posted by Lao Tse Lao Tse wrote:

Originally posted by Po-Binnasaur Po-Binnasaur wrote:

Originally posted by Lao Tse Lao Tse wrote:

I have a quick question that is likely extremely stupid. The Comancheros were the same as Comanches right?

asking even "stupid" questions is better since they help you learn rather then sitting their pretending you know...
Anyways, the Comancheros were normally the new Hispanic traders in New Mexico who traded with the nomadic plains tribes. They were named Comansheros because they traded on the Comanche land who were also their best customers.
 
Ahaa, thats what a Commanshero is! Thanks for the answer, I needed to help my great-granddaughter for a Westward Expansion and the American-Indians vs. U.S. Thats going to help a lot Smile


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