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    Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 17:09
I think that conspiracy theories result from conspiracies.Wink
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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

I think that conspiracy theories result from conspiracies.Wink

I suspect that you are correct but further proof is needed. 

We all conspire it's also known as planning, is it only a conspiracy if there is some sort of black intent? 

For the "WOKE" out there that's 'black' in the old world sense meaning bad intent.


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Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

I think that conspiracy theories result from conspiracies.Wink

I suspect that you are correct but further proof is needed. 

We all conspire it's also known as planning, is it only a conspiracy if there is some sort of black intent? 

For the "WOKE" out there that's 'black' in the old world sense meaning bad intent.

Or do conspiracies result from conspiracy theories?LOL
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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Or do conspiracies result from conspiracy theories?LOL
They might. Remember John Brennan? Former CIA/Collusion with UK & AU to illegally spy on Trump?

Well, Brennan was responsible for assimilating the NIST report on the events of 9/11. Many, people see this as a Grand Conspiracy both in the method of destruction and cover-up afterwards.

The story is falling apart, in a news story this week, building WTC #7 did not collapse due to fire but bc of set charges designed to make the structure collapse on itself. WTC 7 was building that housed the financial documents for the twin towers.

The Final Report Is Out — WTC 7 Not Destroyed by Fire, Concludes Final University of Alaska Fairbanks Report

University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7’s Collapse on 9/11

On March 25, 2020, researchers at the University of Alaska Fairbanks issued the final report of a four-year computer modeling study on the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7.

The 47-story WTC 7 was the third skyscraper to be completely destroyed on September 11, 2001, collapsing rapidly and symmetrically into its footprint at 5:20 PM. Seven years later, investigators at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) concluded that WTC 7 was the first steel-framed high-rise ever to have collapsed solely as a result of normal office fires.

Contrary to the conclusions of NIST, the UAF research team finds that the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11 was not caused by fires but instead was caused by the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building.

Download: Final Report | Abstract




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Consider this:

The world marches inexorably into a global recession due to COVID-19, many companies and other major businesses start to fall.

In comes an overseas investor, willing to underwrite the budgets  of the failing governments/companies, BUT, there is a quid pro quo, the lender demands control.

The investor in this case could be a sovereign nation with it's sights set on global domination.

In this day and age, could that really happen?
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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Consider this:

The world marches inexorably into a global recession due to COVID-19, many companies and other major businesses start to fall.

In comes an overseas investor, willing to underwrite the budgets  of the failing governments/companies, BUT, there is a quid pro quo, the lender demands control.

The investor in this case could be a sovereign nation with it's sights set on global domination.

In this day and age, could that really happen?
I guess there is at least a 50% chance. 

In 2015 Bill Gates did a Ted Talk where he warned about the biggest threat to humanity. He labeled it world wide pandemic. Now you have to try and get some information on the bio lab, just miles outside of Wuhan. Everyone has an agenda and who knows what to believe? I just try to pay attention.

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50% chance of what?  What do you mean by "overseas investor"?  Would you want control in such circumstances?  Would, say, Putin want control of Chad, or Niger, or even South Africa or Brazil?  Maybe Boris would like to revisit the British Empire?  I don't think so.  Seriously, _who_ is this mysterious someone?  Who _could_ it be?

But if you want global domination, I think google would be a good candidate, they are arrogant enough to believe their own propaganda.  Even then, I think that they would maintain the position that they are good because they are weak.  A kinder, gentler "mind control."
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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

50% chance of what?  What do you mean by "overseas investor"?  Would you want control in such circumstances?  Would, say, Putin want control of Chad, or Niger, or even South Africa or Brazil?  Maybe Boris would like to revisit the British Empire?  I don't think so.  Seriously, _who_ is this mysterious someone?  Who _could_ it be?

But if you want global domination, I think google would be a good candidate, they are arrogant enough to believe their own propaganda.  Even then, I think that they would maintain the position that they are good because they are weak.  A kinder, gentler "mind control."
Literally 50% chance IMO that CHINA will be able to sidle up and buy out wealthy Americans, end up owning more US real estate than American citizens do. And CHINA will use this smoke screen pandemic to rock world nations back on their heels economically, making the situation a choice for investors to sell out or lose everything. China has biggest world GDP.

It's happening all over CA and has been for years my friend!

It's a traditional strategy that Jews used to succeed in places where they barely had a right to exist. Only we can't rustle up a pogrom for CHINA. 
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