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Watching the Food Channel takes some nerves of steel. How are we to keep the pounds (kilos) down to comfortable levels when delectable yummies are on the tube? Now other stations are joining in on the fun. Who would have thought that half of the Travel Channel is about Man versus Food? So, over the weekend on a rather full stomach whilst watching the latest places to pig out, I had to rush down to the kitchen in order to make myself a behemoth beef bacon sandwich at 1 am. Beer

What are your favorite food shows? Have you been to any of the joints they show on the television?




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Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares. (I know Dawn is going to hate this one) but also, Hell's Kitchen. Big smile

I know they aren't cooking shows per se... but entertaining nonetheless.. Also, I feel that it is important that I plug for a great drinking culture show-- Three Sheets:

http://www.fineliving.com/fine/pac_ctnt_988/text/0,,FINE_26036_87923,00.html

It's interesting though that although I like to watch Food Network, I don't really have a problem with needing to eat or getting extremely hungry while watching--and I'm over weight ta boot. I just love food..
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My favorites include, Avec Eric, Eric Rippert's show on PBS and anything with Paula Deen.
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Basically what I hate our shows that purport to be about cooking but are really only variants of Big Brother or some other 'reality' show. I'm interested in food and making the best of it, not in some chef's tantrums.
 
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She's cooking on PBS (from beyond the grave) with Jacques Pepin.  If you want really good cooking shows PBS is the way to go!
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Ramseys show is a bit of a laugh. Its a stock episode, full of the essential swearing and shouting at incompetants. Leaves me warm and fuzzy inside. I especially like the way he always builds up to the 'big night' and then acts semi surprised when a huge crowd of people turnout...
 
As if they aren't there to have food cooked by Ramsey??


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Originally posted by Seko Seko wrote:

Watching the Food Channel takes some nerves of steel. How are we to keep the pounds (kilos) down to comfortable levels when delectable yummies are on the tube?


Simples - 4 Rules:

1. Eat whenever you feel hungry (have a glass of water first because you sometimes confuse the feeling of thirst and hunger and if you still feel hungry - EAT)
2. Eat what you want, not what you think you should be eating
3. Eat consciously: swallow every mouthful before having another; and only while you enjoy - put your cutlery down until you've swallowed.
4. Stop eating when you're full, when you stop enjoying the taste of the food in your mouth.

Your body's a veritable genius of diet, i.e., what you should and should not eat and how much.

All you need to do is listen to it by following those four simple rules. Try it. The most important is to eat consciously, the others fall in around it.

Paul McKenna taught me this.



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Originally posted by Parnell Parnell wrote:

Ramseys show is a bit of a laugh. Its a stock episode, full of the essential swearing and shouting at incompetants. Leaves me warm and fuzzy inside. I especially like the way he always builds up to the 'big night' and then acts semi surprised when a huge crowd of people turnout...
 
As if they aren't there to have food cooked by Ramsey??

It's always the same people! His crew or something. Ramsay's kitchen is another piece of telly junk, you know that. What I find much more entertaining is either Rick Stein half way across the world trying to claim his great food is 'easy' to make, or that wine swilling chappy who died recently, Keith Floyd, bossing his camera man around as he roasts a ham on a rocking boat. That's real entertainment.
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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

Originally posted by Parnell Parnell wrote:

Ramseys show is a bit of a laugh. Its a stock episode, full of the essential swearing and shouting at incompetants. Leaves me warm and fuzzy inside. I especially like the way he always builds up to the 'big night' and then acts semi surprised when a huge crowd of people turnout...
 
As if they aren't there to have food cooked by Ramsey??

It's always the same people! His crew or something. Ramsay's kitchen is another piece of telly junk, you know that. What I find much more entertaining is either Rick Stein half way across the world trying to claim his great food is 'easy' to make, or that wine swilling chappy who died recently, Keith Floyd, bossing his camera man around as he roasts a ham on a rocking boat. That's real entertainment.
 
Well thanks for telling me what I know! It is telly junk but entertaining telly junk, a form of pantomine.
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Originally posted by Zagros Zagros wrote:

Originally posted by Seko Seko wrote:

Watching the Food Channel takes some nerves of steel. How are we to keep the pounds (kilos) down to comfortable levels when delectable yummies are on the tube?


Simples - 4 Rules:

1. Eat whenever you feel hungry (have a glass of water first because you sometimes confuse the feeling of thirst and hunger and if you still feel hungry - EAT)
2. Eat what you want, not what you think you should be eating
3. Eat consciously: swallow every mouthful before having another; and only while you enjoy - put your cutlery down until you've swallowed.
4. Stop eating when you're full, when you stop enjoying the taste of the food in your mouth.

Your body's a veritable genius of diet, i.e., what you should and should not eat and how much.

All you need to do is listen to it by following those four simple rules. Try it. The most important is to eat consciously, the others fall in around it.

Paul McKenna taught me this.



That sounds too proper and serious. How about this:

1) Eat when you have time.
2) ditto your no.2
3) Why bother? I tend to wolf it down!
4) What was that?

All you need to do is follow my rules and you will enjoy every minute of your day. I'm not overweight till the belt says I am (I could lose still about ten pounds).


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Parnell,

I wouldn't call it pantomime, because it doesn't claim to be pantomime. It is you, my dear friend, that attribute 'pantomime' onto it! It is ostensibly a food show, but the food is mere garnish to egos and sharp editing. I stick by my first point, for food shows, Stein, Floyd, even Mr. Jamie Oliver all are great entertainment to me, especially Rick Stein.



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Travel Channel spectaculars.

http://www.travelchannel.com/Places_Trips/Travel_Ideas/Food_And_Drink/Food/Sandwich_Paradise

Joints I chowed at:

- Tony's Restaurant. Daring place to step into.

Here's a costumer getting way over his head with a banana split. Brave man.




- Ed Debevic's Diner (Chicago)

http://www.travelchannel.com/Places_Trips/Travel_Ideas/Food_And_Drink/Food/Diner_Paradise

Humiliate yourself. Go ahead. If not, the help certainly will.



- Pizzeria Uno (Chicago)
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I've discovered, since I started to human my food down, that I no longer get the mid afternoon, post lunch slump where I just want to fall asleep.  Additionally, I actually appreciate all the flavours and how delightful they are, as opposed to the serotonin trance which is induced by wolfing food down, where you only realise how good the food you tasted was after it's all gone, prompting you to eat more and get flabby in the process.  besides, not chewing your food properly makes it a lot harder for your stomach to digest.

Also, very few people know this but when you feel starving, your body goes into survival (fat storage) mode.  So when you next eat your body makes an extra effort to store fat, so eating when you feel hungry is the way.

I've found this to be so revolutionary that I have been sharing it at every opportunity.  It's especially pertinent for the overweight people who are perpetually on diets, who don't realise that the only reason they are fat are the ridiculous diets they're on!

Anywho, reason i decided to try it is because it makes sense and I exercise pretty intensively but have never quite realise why my definition never got better (although muscles got bigger) so wanted to see if it made a difference to that... after a week, it certainly has.

What a total digression, apologies.



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Very well put Zagrosino. A man who takes care of himself. You get high marks from me. While you are at it would you please pass the butter? Tongue


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No pork (a religious thing you know). But I do like the occasional Scotch.
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No pork (a religious thing you know). But I do like the occasional Scotch.
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Originally posted by Zagros Zagros wrote:

I've discovered, since I started to human my food down, that I no longer get the mid afternoon, post lunch slump where I just want to fall asleep.  Additionally, I actually appreciate all the flavours and how delightful they are, as opposed to the serotonin trance which is induced by wolfing food down, where you only realise how good the food you tasted was after it's all gone, prompting you to eat more and get flabby in the process.  besides, not chewing your food properly makes it a lot harder for your stomach to digest.

Also, very few people know this but when you feel starving, your body goes into survival (fat storage) mode.  So when you next eat your body makes an extra effort to store fat, so eating when you feel hungry is the way.

I've found this to be so revolutionary that I have been sharing it at every opportunity.  It's especially pertinent for the overweight people who are perpetually on diets, who don't realise that the only reason they are fat are the ridiculous diets they're on!

Anywho, reason i decided to try it is because it makes sense and I exercise pretty intensively but have never quite realise why my definition never got better (although muscles got bigger) so wanted to see if it made a difference to that... after a week, it certainly has.

What a total digression, apologies.

 
I eat what I want and I love it! Best thing is, your body doesn't know when it's full for about twenty minutes, so you can pack a load in in the meantime. It's great.
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Originally posted by Zagros Zagros wrote:

I've discovered, since I started to human my food down, that I no longer get the mid afternoon, post lunch slump where I just want to fall asleep.  Additionally, I actually appreciate all the flavours and how delightful they are, as opposed to the serotonin trance which is induced by wolfing food down, where you only realise how good the food you tasted was after it's all gone, prompting you to eat more and get flabby in the process.  besides, not chewing your food properly makes it a lot harder for your stomach to digest.

Also, very few people know this but when you feel starving, your body goes into survival (fat storage) mode.  So when you next eat your body makes an extra effort to store fat, so eating when you feel hungry is the way.

I've found this to be so revolutionary that I have been sharing it at every opportunity.  It's especially pertinent for the overweight people who are perpetually on diets, who don't realise that the only reason they are fat are the ridiculous diets they're on!

Anywho, reason i decided to try it is because it makes sense and I exercise pretty intensively but have never quite realise why my definition never got better (although muscles got bigger) so wanted to see if it made a difference to that... after a week, it certainly has.

What a total digression, apologies.

 
I eat what I want and I love it! Best thing is, your body doesn't know when it's full for about twenty minutes, so you can pack a load in in the meantime. It's great.


Actually yes it does.  If you eat consciously that means you taste your food.  When its apeal starts to fade (i.e. doesn't taste as good as it did when you started) then that's a sign to stop eating and surely enough your stomach will feel contented 20 minutes later.  It's the key to eating what you need and not much more.  
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Most excellent advice Zagros.  Eating should be all about pleasure and to gobble down food is just not right. The hells kitchen comment I will deal with latter ( evil evil show) 
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I used to watch Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares but got sick of it cause every episode was exactly the same! I mean he gave the same solution for every single place! and I watched the first season of Hell's Kitchen but that was boring and there was nothing else on.

Other than Ramsay I like to watch Huey's Cooking Adventures, he's an Aussie bloke who likes to make decent sized, very meaty meals. Also I don't mind some Jamie Oliver at times. Other than those the only cooking shows I watch really are the Asian ones shown on SBS.


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Gosh, maybe I should slow down in future, and stop eating my food so literally. Big smile
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I know. What's the big deal? What? Like some of us don't enjoy fine cuisine and can't dine with the best of 'em?  Anyway, to leave a memorable thought behind - It goes in one end and comes out the other. Literally and liberally. Big smile
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Cooking "shows", just as with cookbooks do little to guarantee that if you "follow" their directions the results will be culinary treats! Hell! The sec ret to good cooking is a "do it yourself" experiment to please one's own palate! The facts that griddles, ovens, pans and pots have their own characteristics and one must "adapt" recipes to their quirks should serve as warning.
 
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doc: pff on the copper - the advantages do not out weigh the price and upkeep. now a good thick maple counter top is a different story. And the thing you best not be touching if you wish to keep your hands in my kitchen is my knife - a santoku knife straight from japan with duo metal blade - high carbon steel edge and stainless steel body ,laquored wood handle around a full tang. made by a Japanese knife maker with an unpronounceable name. keeps an edge for an unreasonable length of time and is perfectly balanced for my hand. 

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