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    Posted: 15 Mar 2020 at 11:30
Corona Virus has caused the virtual closing of some countries, while strict controls have been put in place in  others.

The virus allegedly has it's genesis in the Wu Han province of China, from where it has spread around the world, although there is little news of the African situation.

There are some countries under totalitarian rule which would not care if some of it's people were killed in the course of testing chemical WMD's. And the effect that the Corona Virus has had on much of the western world has been major. Economies are in limbo, and that's the bottom line in modern warfare.

Could it be that the virus, having been man made has been released, either accidentally or on purpose to test it's efficacy?
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no, it was not man made.
China often has open air markets were they sell wild animals for slaughter for food, or traditional medicine.  This probably what happened in the last Ebola outbreak in Africa and in another fashion with AIDS.
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Some experts agree that was in fact man made. Others disagree.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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There's been one confirmed Covid virus case in my local area. The individual  was diagnosed at the local hospital, but was sent home to recuperate, and I imagine that they were advised to self-quarantine. There are an additional 24 suspected cases, but as yet unconfirmed.  I think that the hospital is advising suspected cases to remain in seclusion at home, and are hoping to reserve hospital admissions for severe, life-threatening cases that may require respirators. I imagine that there are probably many, many undiagnosed cases out there.

All the schools have been closed in my state, as well as all public places (libraries, community-centres, etc.) and public events.  Supermarkets, restaurants, and drugstores are still open.


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DeadAustralia is slowly grinding to a halt.

  • sport and entertainment events postponed, although a few have been allowed to proceed, without spectators;
  • supermarkets are being cleaned out by panic buyers;
  • foreign entrance prohibited-in the case of Australians returning from oversea-14 days self isolation with very heavy fines for infractions;
  • tourism heavily impacted;
  • some businesses forced to close;
  • total prohibition of gatherings of more than 500 people, for any reason;
  • schools and parliament possibly to close.
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I don't know what "experts" you are going by toyomotor.  I do not see the benefit of such wild speculation, except for conspiracy theorists who bank on such rumors.   Did you think the SARS virus
was manufactured?  The SARS virus was also a corona virus.

If it were manufactured, (and its not), then how will that effect how you respond to it?  Other than get pissed off and paranoid, which is of no benefit.  I think that people believe that mother Nature is nice and peaceful, whereas she can be fickle and even malicious.  

But, yes that is what is happening in the US,
roughly.  I am not so much concerned about myself, as I am with my elderly mother (83), although I guess if I get sick it can be serious for me too.  I think I am more paranoid about it than she is.
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Do you think that certain countries are incapable of manufacturing biological agents such as Corona Virus?

Do you think that these countries could have made the virus which has escaped.

Of course it's a conspiracy theory-is meant to be for discussion purposes.
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I know someone who claims that Coronavirus is the fault of the CIA (always the favourite villain of the conspiracy theorist), others who think its a huge plot to make population control acceptable. Hello, Paranoia, my old friend... I've come to talk with you again...
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Interesting here how children are the least affected group, and in the US no one under the age of 50 has died from the virus. 
is a historian and an expert on China. He contends that the number of affected Chinese citizens is under reported and that they knew about the spread of the virus a month before it was made public. Initial reports indicated the source of the Covid 19 virus to be a 'Wet Market' a place where animals are sold for food in unsanitary conditions that lack refrigeration. They also sell bats and snakes to be eaten raw which is obviously no longer working for them. However Chang is disputing this idea that the wet market was an original source. 

The viruses evolve but fortunately the outlook is good for a vaccine in April or May.

These shut downs, shortages and hoarding are bad -but long run, if people are better prepared and cautious next time we may do better. 

The Chinese are asking for more of those damn masks but by all accounts our experts say the masks are only useful if you already have the virus. Masks can keep an infected person from passing the virus through coughing. A healthy person will not benefit from the mask at all. Yet China was pulling people off the street and throwing them into vans for not wearing the mask. When misinformation exists at such a basic level, how can any information coming out of China be relied upon? 

I do not think this was a lab created virus but a small part of my brain noticed the end to Hong Kong uprising, toyomotor - I do agree that a few hundred thousand Chinese deaths would not rattle the Chi-Coms. 


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Watched a video on the Rubin Report, interview with a CDC man.  He said that the danger was not so much, the death rate, but the fact that hospitals could get overwhelmed.

You are assuming the virus escaped (from somewhere) in your question, toyomotor.  It is a manipulative tactic.
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It's not so far fetched is it? 
I don't know about Australia or UK but China manufactures ALL the pharmaceuticals for US. That has to change. Sterile gloves, surgical masks-all from China and none to be found on the store shelves. 
Our "deal makers" of the past have put the drug needs of US citizens into the hands of the Communist Chinese government. Trump slams them with the tariffs they should be paying and now our dependency on China is clearly illustrated for all the world to see. Now that is manipulation.
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Just supposing:-

  • A country which has policies diametrically opposed to those of most western countries, wishes to gain a position of power over a western country or countries;
  • Nuclear war is off the table;
  • Conventional war would probably not receive support around the world.
How to gain the upper hand?

  • Do something which would cripple the economies of the opposing country/countries;
  • NBC attacks could work;
  • Develop a high contagion virus and allow it to escape;
  • Populations in the targeted country/countries would contract the infection;
  • Industry in all it's forms close down;
  • The country/countries close their borders in an effort to stop further contagion;
  • The attacking country, after the economies of the targets have been decimated, offers financial assistance on reasonable terms.
But, after some time has passed comes the quid pro quo. The attacking country demands concessions from the targeted countries, knowing that they cannot repay the debt. So give us permission to build an airstrip or a naval base in strategic positions-or we call in the loan.

So now the attacking country has dominance in the areas which give it tactical and strategic superiority.

Job done.

Wake up and smell the roses, the financial quid pro quo is already in effect in a couple of African countries as well as Pacific Island countries from which Australia could be targeted with more conventional weapons, as could some US holdings in the Pacific.

Conspiracy theory-perhaps, but worth thinking about I think.
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Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

It's not so far fetched is it? 
I don't know about Australia or UK but China manufactures ALL the pharmaceuticals for US. That has to change. Sterile gloves, surgical masks-all from China and none to be found on the store shelves. 
Our "deal makers" of the past have put the drug needs of US citizens into the hands of the Communist Chinese government. Trump slams them with the tariffs they should be paying and now our dependency on China is clearly illustrated for all the world to see. Now that is manipulation.

And Australia has permitted China to control the Port of Darwin at a time when more and more US forces are using Australian facilities to train. Also:-

  • Have allowed China to control an airport in country Western Australia;
  • On a regular basis, allowed China to gain control of some of our best farming land and some industries.
So, no, it's not that far fetched at all. IMHO Franciscosans head in the sand invective does nothing to further this discussion.
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In 2015, the Northern Territory Government leased the Darwin Port to Chinese company — Landbridge — for a sum of $506 million. The most shocking revelation is not the amount of money paid, but the length of the lease — 99 years. There is no question that this strategic move is consistent with China’s Belt and Road initiative.

The initiative seeks to expand Chinese banks across the globe, create major Chinese-owned trade-routes, and undertake a number of mining and energy projects. Part of this strategy involves debt-trapping nations in an attempt to gain control over their assets, resources and territory.

China has recently been under international fire for its corrupt practices with third-world nations. Essentially, Chinese banks and entities have been loaning money at low-rates to nations whom they know will not be able to remunerate.

These nations — such as VenezuelaFiji, Tonga, and Sri Lanka — have been forced to pay for their loans by surrendering strategic ports to China, acquiring land, establishing military bases, and constructing Chinese airports. China’s overseas lending [has] risen from almost nothing in 2000 to more than $700 billion [USD] today. It is the world’s largest official creditor, more than twice as big as the World Bank and IMF combined. Yet tracking the money is hard because of limited transparency in its disclosures.

According to the recent reports, China has expanded its Taishan Antarctic Base beyond its assigned boundaries, signalling the need for Australia to invest more in the surveillance of this region.


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EXACTLY!!
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I'm a little confused, I thought this was a thread on corona virus.  I don't see how it could affect you or me if this disease came from Chi Com labs, CIA labs or extraterrestrial meteorites.  It is all a very low tech answer of wash your hands, physical distancing, not the sexy the Chinese are behind it!!  They want our women!  (oh, wait a minute, that's the aliens).

I would suggest that you not confuse this with other things.  But, if the Chinese can use it to their benefit, they probably will, but as far as I can tell the leader has mud on his face, and is blaming the whole thing on the CIA, to deflect from Chinese poor performance.
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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

I'm a little confused, I thought this was a thread on corona virus.  I don't see how it could affect you or me if this disease came from Chi Com labs, CIA labs or extraterrestrial meteorites.  It is all a very low tech answer of wash your hands, physical distancing, not the sexy the Chinese are behind it!!  They want our women!  (oh, wait a minute, that's the aliens).
Oh, lol is it as sexy a the little slave girl from the series "Rome"?
Are you itching to slap her? lol
Look here, UK has a study look it up. China could have spared the world 95% of this bullsh*t if they had only been up front about the epidemic they had and saw before December 2019.


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Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

I'm a little confused, I thought this was a thread on corona virus.  I don't see how it could affect you or me if this disease came from Chi Com labs, CIA labs or extraterrestrial meteorites.  It is all a very low tech answer of wash your hands, physical distancing, not the sexy the Chinese are behind it!!  They want our women!  (oh, wait a minute, that's the aliens).
Oh, lol is it as sexy a the little slave girl from the series "Rome"?
Are you itching to slap her? lol
Look here, UK has a study look it up. China could have spared the world 95% of this bullsh*t if they had only been up front about the epidemic they had and saw before December 2019.



Once again, EXACTLY!!

Time will probably confirm that the virus was or was not man made, and how it escaped.

Quote QUOTE=franciscosan]I'm a little confused, I thought this was a thread on corona virus.  I don't see how it could affect you or me if this disease came from Chi Com labs, CIA labs or extraterrestrial meteorites.  It is all a very low tech answer of wash your hands, physical distancing, not the sexy the Chinese are behind it!!  They want our women!  (oh, wait a minute, that's the aliens).


Treating the matter as a joke I think is inappropriate.

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"Treating the matter as a joke I think is inappropriate."

Asia isn't laughing they are hauling corpses.
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IF it is proven that COVID 19 is man made, and if it is proved that China is responsible for it's release what do you think that the UN etc will do about it?

  • Sanctions won't work, they'd be ignored by some countries (unless they were backed up by a total blockade of China's borders);
  • China would ignore the results of any legal proceedings/decisions by the International Court of Justice at The Hague;
  • Military action seems to be a non-starter.
I read somewhere that China knew about the virus late last year but didn't alert the rest of the world. This could be considered as an actus reus in itself, even if the release was accidental.

What do you think?

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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

no, it was not man made.
China often has open air markets were they sell wild animals for slaughter for food, or traditional medicine.  This probably what happened in the last Ebola outbreak in Africa and in another fashion with AIDS. 

How do you know? do you have a direct link to the Chinese government?

Without scientific proof, no-one knows it's genesis.
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Hello, Paranoia, my old friend... I've come to talk with you again...

The Sounds of Silence, which is what's coming out of China. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

IF it is proven that COVID 19 is man made, and if it is proved that China is responsible for it's release what do you think that the UN etc will do about it?

  • Sanctions won't work, they'd be ignored by some countries (unless they were backed up by a total blockade of China's borders);
  • China would ignore the results of any legal proceedings/decisions by the International Court of Justice at The Hague;
  • Military action seems to be a non-starter.
I read somewhere that China knew about the virus late last year but didn't alert the rest of the world. This could be considered as an actus reus in itself, even if the release was accidental.

What do you think?

I don't think the virus was intentionally inflicted in Wuhan. The medical response wasn't effective or planned as far as we know and we don't see Xi Jinping.

First- China tried to get ahead of the virus, Dec 1, 2019 but the source of initial outbreak was probably wrong.

Second China used propaganda that was backed up by WHO which indicates knowledge of the virus on the part of WHO of some sort.

Third after 2 missteps a failure to report the unknown virus globally as China and the WHO are MANDATED and OBLIGED to do. Embarrassed and overwhelmed China turned around ships carrying medical supplies on it's way to the US, contracted work that I expect will no longer be offered to China.
All three elements are criminal.

By Gordon G. Chang - - Monday, February 3, 2020

ANALYSIS/OPINION:

Xi Jinping has disappeared from public view.

Media in China speak with one voice: that of the Communist Party. Social media censors are obsessive, thorough and speedy.

Many have marveled at the speed of state action. Among the cheerleaders is the director general of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus. China News Service, run by the Communist Party, reported that Mr. Ghebreyesus, during a meeting with Mr. Xi in Beijing on Jan. 28, said that China was “winning the admiration of the world.” “The speed and extent of the Chinese mobilization is rarely seen in the world,” he is reported to have said. “This is the superiority of the Chinese system and this experience is worthy of emulation byer countries.”

“Superiority?” Beijing’s response, of course, would have been unnecessary if the party had not suppressed news in December. The first known patient inflicted with the 2019-nCoV virus became ill on Dec. 1.

Chinese officials spent almost all that month scrubbing news of the mysterious respiratory disease. The first official announcement was made on Dec. 31 as was a police announcement of the investigation of eight Wuhan doctors for “spreading rumors.” Officials then spent more than half of January ignoring the epidemic or downplaying its severity.

"IF it is proven that COVID 19 is man made, and if it is proved that China is responsible for it's release what do you think that the UN etc will do about it?"

 toyomotor, Have a think on this, a bit off topic but you will overlook it please. Why would the Chinese sully themselves with disease? Or Italy or the US? In fact no government currently IMO would be able to do so without the full cooperation of globalists broadly speaking, specifically the International Monetary Fund. 

The result of crisis such as pandemics require government bailouts, amounting to devaluing the currency. That is how the US will start paying for the 2 trillion$ aid package to US citizens. Devalue the currency and rich people buy gold. The more hits to currency the more scarce gold becomes. 

If you see Gold for sale everywhere, try ordering some, see how far you get it's scarce. Once the money is devalued or valued to status of toilet paper, globalists roll out a solution the new global currency backed by a-Gold Standard. Then you have a 1% society with 99% equalized and sterilized. Eventually it could happen- it does not have to happen. Listen to Peter Schiff if you have an interest.





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toyomotor, Australia has the same problem as US with so called educators. At the college level young people don't know anything about Communist China. They Tweeted a bit when Lebron James (NBA Billionaire) defended China evaporating Hong Kong's autonomy, "keep dem keeds makin' my damn shoes!" 

Le Bron, buy another yacht and shut the **** up! That all just went away and Nike, Apple, The Gap etc makes the duplicity from the Chinese tolerable and comfortable.

We have a leftists Media and DNC who who debased it's own citizens to see their own rise in power. Handing over autonomy to China in Darwin's Port is appeasement. 

Pressure will build between US and China it doesn't have to be war but it already is a cold one. 

http://https://www.spectator.com.au/2019/07/dont-underestimate-chinas-plans/

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V I've read that China knew about the virus at some stage before September, but told no-one. In December it chastised scientists for spreading false rumours.

At this stage, China is reporting a reduction of infected people. I don't believe it.

According to a news broadcast a few minutes ago, the US now has more inflicted people than China or Italy.

I think it would be fair to say that over the past 50 years the west has not been kept abreast of what's happening in China-although intelligence agencies would obviously have more info than we proletariat.

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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

V I've read that China knew about the virus at some stage before September, but told no-one. In December it chastised scientists for spreading false rumours.

At this stage, China is reporting a reduction of infected people. I don't believe it.

According to a news broadcast a few minutes ago, the US now has more inflicted people than China or Italy.

I think it would be fair to say that over the past 50 years the west has not been kept abreast of what's happening in China-although intelligence agencies would obviously have more info than we proletariat.

This link is a live meter to stats around the world, it's constantly tallying world numbers.
One thing that Ben Shapiro mentioned on his podcast yesterday, in the US, the numbers are based on people who have been tested. 
How many of us are walking around un-tested? If we reacted this way to the flu stats during some seasons the numbers would not seem so epic comparatively. 

It's the highly contagious factor and the fact that older people have little resistance that is a puzzler. 
In older people the antibodies produced are of the "binding/neutralizing" type, this is the cause of reinfection. 
Younger people produce an antibody that sheds the virus, making reinfection unlikely the body will behave as if it's had a vaccine. I see today that there is a blood test for Covid-19 developed in the US, They are going to start testing in China. As usual the link is tricky but you can enter it manually for live numbers.

Recovered:

128,701
ACTIVE CASES
395,857
Currently Infected Patients
374,835 (95%)
in Mild Condition

21,022 (5%)
Serious or Critical

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153,573
Cases which had an outcome:
128,701 (84%)
Recovered / Discharged

24,872 (16%)
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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

V I've read that China knew about the virus at some stage before September, but told no-one. In December it chastised scientists for spreading false rumours.

At this stage, China is reporting a reduction of infected people. I don't believe it.

According to a news broadcast a few minutes ago, the US now has more inflicted people than China or Italy.

I think it would be fair to say that over the past 50 years the west has not been kept abreast of what's happening in China-although intelligence agencies would obviously have more info than we proletariat.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/who-china-taiwan-interview
 

The World Health Organization (WHO) is being accused of "carrying China's water" after a senior adviser refused to acknowledge Taiwan during a bizarre interview with a Hong Kong news outlet.

Canadian physician Dr. Bruce Aylward, an aide to WHO director-general Dr.Tedros Adhanom, sat down for a video interview with RTHK about the coronavirus outbreak where he was asked whether the organization would "consider Taiwan's membership."

For several seconds, Aylward sat in silence.

"Hello?" the reporter asked. "I'm sorry, I couldn't hear your question Yvonne," Aylward responded.

"Okay, let me repeat the question," she said.

"No, that's okay. Let's move to another one then," the WHO official told her.

The reporter doubled down, saying she was "curious" to talk about Taiwan as well as the ongoing pandemic, but Aylward quickly hangs up.

After calling him again, the reporter asked about what his thoughts were to Taiwan's response to the outbreak.

"Well, we've already talked about China," Aylward answered. "And you know, when you look across all the different areas of China, they've actually all done quite a good job."


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It is not CIA or COM CHI Labs, if it was, don't you think they would have manufactured a cure in case it got out???  Or a vaccine?  Biological agents are not very good weapons because it is hard to target them to just the people you want to kill.  If this disease was manufactured there would be tell tale signs.

If China release such a disease intentionally, that would be a causus belli for _everyone_ to gang up on China.  How many people died in the twin towers?  and for that we got involved in two wars.  The US death toll alone would be enough of causus belli for the US _if_ it were intentional, which it is not.

I think aliens is about as plausible as CIA or Com Chi labs, they are about as equally ridiculous!
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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

It is not CIA or COM CHI Labs, if it was, don't you think they would have manufactured a cure in case it got out???  Or a vaccine?  Biological agents are not very good weapons because it is hard to target them to just the people you want to kill.  If this disease was manufactured there would be tell tale signs.

If China release such a disease intentionally, that would be a causus belli for _everyone_ to gang up on China.  How many people died in the twin towers?  and for that we got involved in two wars.  The US death toll alone would be enough of causus belli for the US _if_ it were intentional, which it is not.

I think aliens is about as plausible as CIA or Com Chi labs, they are about as equally ridiculous!
LOL, it's Chi-Coms fyi, Communist Chinese :) funny

It's becoming evident that certain missteps and cover-ups were happening possibly as early as November 2019. No, not an intentional bio attack but some collusion about the outbreak between China/ WHO that was not shared with the rest of the world.
It is not a secret that the US, UK and Russia all experiment with viruses. There are legitimate reasons for understanding how viruses mutate, yes?
There is no reason to think that global monetary interests play no part in determining how these plans develop.
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Originally posted by Windemere Windemere wrote:

There's been one confirmed Covid virus case in my local area. The individual  was diagnosed at the local hospital, but was sent home to recuperate, and I imagine that they were advised to self-quarantine. There are an additional 24 suspected cases, but as yet unconfirmed.  I think that the hospital is advising suspected cases to remain in seclusion at home, and are hoping to reserve hospital admissions for severe, life-threatening cases that may require respirators. I imagine that there are probably many, many undiagnosed cases out there.

All the schools have been closed in my state, as well as all public places (libraries, community-centres, etc.) and public events.  Supermarkets, restaurants, and drugstores are still open.
How about Rhode Island Governor Raimondo! She's getting gangsta on the people who left New York!
Right now there is an advisory that appears to make sense. What say you? Hope you and family are healthy!
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