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    Posted: 08 May 2013 at 11:26
Do I look very fat to you or just simply fat?


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Yes, you are dangerously obese. What the hell are you expecting to hear?
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Originally posted by Goodman Goodman wrote:

 
As I quote Abraham Lincoln:...........Perhaps a little.....
在財富的害處,而是一件好事永遠不持續。我在和平中仅居住在新的風下。 Wei Jia Hong No harm in wealth, but a good thing doesn't last forever. I live only among peace under
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More cushion for the pushin'
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More cushion for the pushin'
 
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在財富的害處,而是一件好事永遠不持續。我在和平中仅居住在新的風下。 Wei Jia Hong No harm in wealth, but a good thing doesn't last forever. I live only among peace under
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I was fat too.  But at least I was happy.

I am even happier now since I lost all of that weight - here is the new slimline me posing in Sicily last week:



Want to know how I did it? I just ate less.  Specifically, I cut out pasta, bread and anything with added sugar out of my diet, especially fizzy drinks.  I drank water instead.  That was the biggest thing - pardon the pun.
"There was glory in pissing, Corabb decided as he watched the stream curve out and make that familiar but unique sound as it hit the ground." So true.
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Pretty sure your fat pic is one of those Ipad apps.

I lost four and a half stone or so since August. No miracles involved, just eat less and exercise more. Running is the best drug there is too, the high you get afterwards is almost as satisfying as a good bag of MDMA!
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Originally posted by Parnell Parnell wrote:

Pretty sure your fat pic is one of those Ipad apps.


Pretty sure I agree. Nice try, Zagros LOL

Quote the high you get afterwards is almost as satisfying as a good bag of MDMA!


And this is also another really great way of losing weight, and much more fun than lots of cardio and starving yourself. Of course, people who lose it that way usually put it back on because they haven't broken bad habits and learned new good ones.

I used to be fat as a teenager, then got sick of it and over a year dropped close to 40KG. 5 KM run every morning, plus sometimes in evenings, combined with restricted portion sizes, reduced sugar intake and generally healthier eating. I had no supervision and advice, which actually would have helped considerably, but I did have sufficient willpower.

Now whenever a fat person complains to me about how their inability to lose weight is due to factors beyond their control, I roll my eyes and tell them to get real. I figure if they are too lazy to exercise and too weak willed to put down the fork, they can at least be honest with themselves and others instead of BSing everyone.

"Nothing tastes as good as being skinny feels" - Kate Hudson. Like it or not, she had a point.
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I was never one of these types to blame others or society for being fat. I knew it was my own doing. Was always a fattie, it seemed like my destiny, was too lazy and cynical to change it. Then I woke up one morning and thought, 'f**k it, I can change this if I want'. Joined a gym, and that was that. No looking back. Long term aim is to run a marathon, hopefully within the next 12 months. Need to give up smoking too!

My eyes glaze over when I hear somebody blaming their genes or whatever too. I hate prejudice of any kind (And fat people face quite a lot that ordinary people don't even notice) and generally think that the TV adds and anti obesity posters are if anything, unhelpful (As it just deepens people's poor self esteem issues and depressive tendencies). Its the kids I feel sorry for, the chubby eight and nine year olds whose parents should really be doing more to take the issue in hand.
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Originally posted by Parnell Parnell wrote:

Pretty sure your fat pic is one of those Ipad apps.

I lost four and a half stone or so since August. No miracles involved, just eat less and exercise more. Running is the best drug there is too, the high you get afterwards is almost as satisfying as a good bag of MDMA!


I went from 18st (first pic) to a stable and normal for my height 13st (second pic) just through diet.

It is more diet than anything else I have to emphasise. You don't get fat from not exercising.  You won't believe how bad wheat based products are for some people (I am in that group).  Also anything processed esp with added sugar.  Diet bars and diet soft drinks will do you no good either.
"There was glory in pissing, Corabb decided as he watched the stream curve out and make that familiar but unique sound as it hit the ground." So true.
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I eat pasta five times a week and my lunches usually consist of sandwiches. I don't think ruling out particular foods does anybody any good. Its simple aritmetic. You need to burn more than you consume. In my case I give extra emphasis to exercise simply because I enjoy it (and food, obviously) Making weight loss complex is what stops people from losing weight. As soon as they realise its actually very simple and follows some very simple natural laws, the easier it will be for them. When its wrapped up in various prohibitions (you shall not have salt, or sugar, or bread) it simply scares people away.

People like the OP could eat 3,000 calories a day and still lose weight, simply because he needs an extra thousand calories a day or so just to maintain his enormous heft. I admit though, that in his case exercise is probably not going to be an option until he loses quite a bit of weight. If the OP is serious and this isn't some kind of joke, I'd strongly recommend he visit a doctor and tackle the issue now. Because if he remains the way he currently is, he will die from weight related issues.
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People are different, I developed a wheat intolerance at some point which wreaked havoc on my metabolic and digestive system. As soon as I stopped the wheat based products after about 3 years of the symptoms everything went back to normal. I thought I had ibs or something and thought I was doomed for the rest of my life. Within a month or so after stopping everything was back to normal and I lost about a stone and now I don't really have to worry about what I eat and how much (within reason), I just eat when I am hungry and stop when I am full. I maintain a constant shape and approximate weight.
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Originally posted by Parnell Parnell wrote:

I was never one of these types to blame others or society for being fat. I knew it was my own doing. Was always a fattie, it seemed like my destiny, was too lazy and cynical to change it. Then I woke up one morning and thought, 'f**k it, I can change this if I want'. Joined a gym, and that was that. No looking back. Long term aim is to run a marathon, hopefully within the next 12 months. Need to give up smoking too!


I was very athletic and active until about the age of 5-6, when I developed quite bad hayfever and athsma. There were certain times of the year when going outside meant watery eyes and a runny nose (gross and not fun). And try playing chasey or team sports when your windpipe can randomly close in on itself without warning and leave you a wheezing mess. So life became increasingly sedentary and inactive. Combine that with not the best diet, which you don't get control of as a kid, and there you have it.

Quote Because if he remains the way he currently is, he will die from weight related issues.


While draining the rest of us in terms of tax revenue and resources over many years into the bargain.

Originally posted by Zagros Zagros wrote:

Within a month or so after stopping everything was back to normal and I lost about a stone and now I don't really have to worry about what I eat


It's amazing how little everyday things will cause really substantial problems and never get addressed. Heavy alcohol users who wonder why they sleep so poorly. Sugar addicts who wonder why they have sudden plunges in their energy levels. Coffee connoiseurs who can't function half decently for the first 4 hours of the day without their hit. And that's all basic stuff which anyone can find the solutions to.

And the bowel is a temperamental organ alright.

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Yep, sugar's the biggest culprit for obesity as well - this has been empirically observed in the US since the 70s.  A US science report was suppressed by threat of libel from the Sugar Lobby (did you even know this existed?).  Instead they suggested that fat in diet be targeted as a comrpomise.  This unfortunately led to the growing weight crisis in the Anglophonic world with the branding and marketing of low-fat high-sugar foods which actually magnified the problem.

"There was glory in pissing, Corabb decided as he watched the stream curve out and make that familiar but unique sound as it hit the ground." So true.
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Hey! That is quite an improvement Zagros. Tongue Commencing to duck...
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Originally posted by Zagros Zagros wrote:

Yep, sugar's the biggest culprit for obesity as well - this has been empirically observed in the US since the 70s.  A US science report was suppressed by threat of libel from the Sugar Lobby (did you even know this existed?).  Instead they suggested that fat in diet be targeted as a comrpomise.  This unfortunately led to the growing weight crisis in the Anglophonic world with the branding and marketing of low-fat high-sugar foods which actually magnified the problem.



Sugar lobby? Nope not really surprised. In this country, it seems like there is a Lobby for Lobbies.  Runaway pork Angry
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Originally posted by Panther Panther wrote:

Originally posted by Zagros Zagros wrote:



Hey! That is quite an improvement Zagros. Tongue Commencing to duck...


You're not worth the swing! I'm glad you find the suffering of others amusing.  It's people like you who make the world such a wicked place!
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Originally posted by Zagros Zagros wrote:

Originally posted by Panther Panther wrote:

Originally posted by Zagros Zagros wrote:



Hey! That is quite an improvement Zagros. Tongue Commencing to duck...


You're not worth the swing! I'm glad you find the suffering of others amusing.  It's people like you who make the world such a wicked place!


Huh? I am sorry, didn't realize you would be so touchy. But if your serious(?), then no i don't find amusement in someone else suffering. I thought you knew me better than that?

However.... if your like me, then playfulness amongst friends is a sign of my endearment to a person. Just ask Parnell. Besides, i thought that it was an app.


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Honestly Zagros - you had me fooled too - and if you are serious about this, I'm as guilty as Panther.
 
 
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If you we're as fat as I was you'd be touchy too.

Alright alright, the charade's over, I've never been fat.
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I called it first. Poor attempt Zagros.
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Your cookies are in the post. Just make sure you don't eat too many.

Edited by Zagros - 22 May 2013 at 09:03
"There was glory in pissing, Corabb decided as he watched the stream curve out and make that familiar but unique sound as it hit the ground." So true.
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Originally posted by Zagros Zagros wrote:

Your cookies are in the post. Just make sure you don't eat too many.


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Miu?

I suspect this whole thread is a hoax by a certain member who regularly creates new user names


Edited by Zagros - 23 May 2013 at 09:38
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Originally posted by Parnell Parnell wrote:

I was never one of these types to blame others or society for being fat. I knew it was my own doing. Was always a fattie, it seemed like my destiny, was too lazy and cynical to change it. Then I woke up one morning and thought, 'f**k it, I can change this if I want'. Joined a gym, and that was that. No looking back. Long term aim is to run a marathon, hopefully within the next 12 months. Need to give up smoking too!

My eyes glaze over when I hear somebody blaming their genes or whatever too. I hate prejudice of any kind (And fat people face quite a lot that ordinary people don't even notice) and generally think that the TV adds and anti obesity posters are if anything, unhelpful (As it just deepens people's poor self esteem issues and depressive tendencies). Its the kids I feel sorry for, the chubby eight and nine year olds whose parents should really be doing more to take the issue in hand.

Life generally have addiction components sometimes innate like salmon returning to spawn and die.
In humans it could be tobacco, alcohol, party, music,drugs, food, shopping, exercise, money, power, sex, love, spelling, math, thrill,crime, procreation,order,etc.

Fat is problem in few ways.
1) Metabolism.  It is affected by gene, virus, muscle, and food intake etc.
Reducing food will make body to go in conserve mode.  Sometimes it is virus or thyroid that produced extra fat.  Theoretically, even things like biological weapon that usa tested on population to make people lazy(ie enermy soldier) could been the cause.
2) Natural body shape.  Elephants look fat than horses.  It work somewhat like that in humans.  Some people will have HUGE subliminal urge.
3) Unlike other addictions, you cannot go cold turkey.
4) Dumping.   There was opium war.  So usa wanted to dump spam(ie 50-60% fat, chemicals,salt) to pacific.
5) Plain addiction, plus food company and medical/drug/diet company want to make a profit so they will do best.



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People are fat because they eat too much. Lets not go crazy here. I'm about 6 foot 2 inches and just under 15 stone. I could do with losing maybe another stone or so, but I'm not going to get stressed about it. I'm happy with what I am at the moment. It took about a year or so to lose the weight, maintaining that loss is relatively easy, it just requires a bit of discipline. I really don't have a lot of time for people that make excuses for obesity!
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Originally posted by Parnell Parnell wrote:

People are fat because they eat too much. Lets not go crazy here. I'm about 6 foot 2 inches and just under 15 stone. I could do with losing maybe another stone or so, but I'm not going to get stressed about it. I'm happy with what I am at the moment. It took about a year or so to lose the weight, maintaining that loss is relatively easy, it just requires a bit of discipline. I really don't have a lot of time for people that make excuses for obesity!

Yeah, I get that very good. 15 stones... But just one question on my mind. Big ones or smallers? Or maybe very big stones :P
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Or perhaps pebbles!

Each stone is roughly 6.35 kilograms.


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Human biochemistry is somewhat more complex than that of a simple equation. For some, even the most modest intake of calories, coupled with reasonable exercise, may still mean weight gain. Their DNA tells their bodies to store, because calamity is at hand, although of course it is not. But they can't change that. There are also others on the opposite end of the scale, whose DNA (or whatever  biochemical pathway) tells their bodies to burn it all up, and/or reject it as excess, leaving them struggling with a different problem. Not all those we see with weight issues have them through simple issues of eating.
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