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OH MY GOD! I am in heaven!

Any other Titanic buffs here on the forum?
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It's a really big boat. Sin é.
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Surprising what people can do with dog's wages back then.

 
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Anybody from Southampton is a Titanic buff.
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Was't it built in Cork?
 
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Thanks! My son is obsessed with the Titanic. We watched that video together.
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Originally posted by Al Jassas Al Jassas wrote:

Was't it built in Cork?
 
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The city of Belfast in Northern Ireland.
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Originally posted by hugoestr hugoestr wrote:

Thanks! My son is obsessed with the Titanic. We watched that video together.


The one i supplied? You mean i actually got to contribute to a father and son bonding moment?Smile
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Captain Smith on the Olympic i believe?



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Yeah. I can't tell you how many Titanic documentaries I have watched. Actually, I can't believe how many there are.

Now my son wants me to draw from pictures and paintings from the Titanic. I got to do the staircase of the great ballroom yesterday.
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Originally posted by Panther Panther wrote:

Originally posted by Al Jassas Al Jassas wrote:

Was't it built in Cork?
 
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The city of Belfast in Northern Ireland.
Mind you, if it had been built of cork, hustory might have been different....
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Originally posted by gcle2003 gcle2003 wrote:

Originally posted by Panther Panther wrote:

Originally posted by Al Jassas Al Jassas wrote:

Was't it built in Cork?
 
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The city of Belfast in Northern Ireland.
Mind you, if it had been built of cork, hustory might have been different....


We might of been left without this most interesting part of history, but i would have been just fine with that as long as the 1600+ lives had been spared.
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The video stated that the last Titanic survivor dies at the age of 94 in 2006. To all readers. Actually Millvina Elizabeth Gladys Dean passed away on May 31st 2009 at the age of 99 as she was born on Feb 2th, 2012. On April 15th 2012 at 2:20 AM will mark the one hundred anniversary of The Sinking of the Titanic. Millvina was a good friend of mine and I was also her event co-ordinator. Rest in Peace my Friend.  photo below...Millvina Dean, Bruno Nordmanis and myself in her England Home 1998 

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Thank you for the correction Smile and welcome to our forum. Handshake
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The story about the disaster of the Titanic is, regardless of the horrific disaster it was, totally blown out of proportions and it only lives on, because greedy people has seen a way to profit from it.
It's almost 100 years ago - and the name Titanic is one of the best known "brands" world wide.   
 
A similar disaster took place less than 20 years ago, and very few can remember and even less than a few can relate the name to the events in the baltic sea: MS Estonia.
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Nice thread. Thanks Panther.
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Originally posted by Northman Northman wrote:

The story about the disaster of the Titanic is, regardless of the horrific disaster it was, totally blown out of proportions and it only lives on, because greedy people has seen a way to profit from it.
It's almost 100 years ago - and the name Titanic is one of the best known "brands" world wide.   
 
A similar disaster took place less than 20 years ago, and very few can remember and even less than a few can relate the name to the events in the baltic sea: MS Estonia.
Ring a bell? Smile
 


Not everyone's cup of tea. I don't remember if i mentioned this link

http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/

Has very a interesting message board, however i think you might find this of more interest.

http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/discus/messages/6937/6937.html?1307041599

Edit: Sorry for the rush posting, was in a bit of a hurry. Meant to include the thought that the last link above covers shipwrecks from across the world.



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Originally posted by Northman Northman wrote:

The story about the disaster of the Titanic is, regardless of the horrific disaster it was, totally blown out of proportions and it only lives on, because greedy people has seen a way to profit from it.
It's almost 100 years ago - and the name Titanic is one of the best known "brands" world wide.   
 
A similar disaster took place less than 20 years ago, and very few can remember and even less than a few can relate the name to the events in the baltic sea: MS Estonia.
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There have certainly been worse disasters at sea than the Titanic, bad as it was.
 
The worst of modern times may be the sinking of the Wilhelm Gustoff, a cruise liner pressed into service to evacuate German civilian refugees from the advance of Soviet forces in 1945. As many as 9000 may have lost their lives after the ship was torpedoed by a Soviet submarine in the Baltic Sea. Although a horrific event, it has been little remarked upon in the media.
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Yes indeed, many greater disasters have long come to pass. Even my good friend and youngest Titanic survivor didn't know what all the fuss was. She lost her father on that ship and in her own words...I guess it was because so many dreams were shattered. When I asked her what did she think of J.Cameron's Titanic. She replied...I never saw it! I didn't want to because it would make me wonder where was my dad? What did he do? did he die a horrible death, What was his last toughs and so on so forth.  But we both agreed that if Cameron had chosen the lost ship Lusitania sunk by a torpedo, it would have been immortalized like Titanic. 
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Yes indeed, many greater disasters have long come to pass. Even my good friend and youngest Titanic survivor didn't know what all the fuss was. She lost her father on that ship and in her own words...I guess it was because so many dreams were shattered. When I asked her what did she think of J.Cameron's Titanic. She replied...I never saw it! I didn't want to because it would make me wonder where was my dad? What did he do? did he die a horrible death, What was his last toughs and so on so forth.  But we both agreed that if Cameron had chosen the lost ship Lusitania sunk by a torpedo, it would have been immortalized like Titanic. 
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It's not the film, nor indeed the number lost, that immortalises Titanic. What does that is the concatenation of several things:
 
(a) She was promoted everywhere as the latest and most fashional in luxury liners, in an age when liners were the acme of fashionable travel.
(b) She was proclaimed 'unsinkable'.
(c) She was scheduled to take the Blue Riband for the fastest Atlantic crossing
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(d) She sank on her maiden voyage, after one of the most heavily publicised departures ever from Southampton.
 
If you want a similar episode, take the Hindenberg explosion of 1937. Less than a hundred people aboard and only 35 killed, but a proverbial crash. Filmed incidentally in 1975 with George C. Scott and Anne Bancroft, though I never saw the film.
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Yes all what you have stated is true, but only for next few years that followed. Titanic was all but forgotten the following half a century that followed. Did you know that Millvina Dean's street she lived on was changed to..Millvina Close! Only after Cameron's film. Did you know that even her own neighbors never knew that she was a Titanic survivor? Until the film came out. While I was having dinner at her home in 1998, There was a line up outside waiting to see her and hound her for her autograph. In that line up were her very own neighbors also. The door bell did not stop ringing, the phone did not stop ringing. She had to ask her good friend Bruno Nordmanis to send the people away and disconnect her phone. The Mail carrier left 6 full boxes of mail with Bruno...I helped bring them in and put them on top of at least 10 boxes stuffed in the corner of her little 800 square feet home...Millvina had become a prisoner in her own home. Therefore I can clearly state that had there been no Cameron's film, the Titanic would have rotten away without anyone ever knowing about it. Titanic would be like any other Ship Lusitania, Estonia, Andrea Dorea, Bismark, or any shuttle disaster, or Natural disaster Katrina, India etc. RARELY SPOKE ABOUT! It was Hollywood and Hollywood alone the reason for such fuss. Not the disaster itself, or how much publicity they got back then... Think about it! 
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I grew up in Southampton. The place is full of Titanic memorials, to the ship, to the crew, to the engineers, to the stewards.... It doesn't surprise me that neighbours wouldn't know she was a Titanic survivor - how would they know is she kept it quiet? There are more memorials to Titanic than to Mayflower, the only other ship to sail from Southampton with anything like the same fame.
 
You probably don't remember the importance of Titanic to the plot of the long-running series Upstairs and Downstairs which probably had as many viewers around the world as the Cameron film had in the cinema.
 
And there were thousands of books published about her long before the film, which essentially cashed in on a familiar popular legend.
 
(You can add to the list of reasons I gave that no other shipwreck has involved so many rich and powerful figures from Britain and the US.)


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My home town here is Kelowna BC Canada. You and most of the world probably never heard of OGOPOGO! Maybe you have heard of it but if not... What the heck is OGOPOGO you must be asking yourself. Well Google it and you will get an Idea of it. Here in the Okanagan valley, the creature if it exist? is 1000 times more  popular then Titanic.  Every store, kiosk,tourist traps just to mention a few has every type of merchandise about it. I guess you can say that Titanic is to South Hampton as OGOPOGO to the Okanagan. Maybe Hollywood will produce a major motion picture of the beast, and poor millions into our community, LOL. That's all it would take to generate a billion fans like Area 51 Roswell! Of course, I don't believe in OGOPOGO, like so for Roswell.  The Point I am making here, is Hollywood is a ticket to fame and fortune, to all it choses to do so. I stayed in England, and S. Hampton, and yes you are absolutely right..it is and always will be a mecca for Titanic. But OGOPOGO, AREA 51, NESSIE, CHUPACABRA, ALL HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON. Apart from Roswell, Their centuries older than Titanic and super popular where they originated, but never was and never will be, a world wide topic, a world wide cash cow, a world wide known story over knight "UNLESS HOLLYWOOD DECIDE'S IT TO BE" And you are correct about Millvina. She never spoke to her Neighbors regarding much at all. Nor did she ever! Not before the film, Not after the film. Then...How did they find out? and what made these people go crazy over it? Her name was not Rose, and believe me, She was as poor as they came and never knew who Jack was. and most important...She was not that old little lady aka...Rose portrayed in the film.    

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Ah. The Titanic. I am fascinated with the predictions of the Titanic. Some people said the following quartets prected the event (no matter others said the same quartet predict the killing of Kennedy and the fall of the Catholic Curch during WW III..., anyways)

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Before the conflict the great wall shall fall,
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(Sure, in Spanish the mystics translate born for ship... so it sounds great now)

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To equate Nostradamus with the term mystic is a bit of a stretch and to dwell on such rubbish is just one of the reasons why the Forum is having problems in presenting itself as a sound source for discussion premised upon Historical Methodology. In essence one might say much the same about the S.S. Morro Castle disaster of 1934, a tragedy that had far greater consequences to the defining of maritime safety in subsequent years than any outcome involving the Titanic. Contemporary curiosity over Titanic is more the product of Media intensification since the publication of A Night to Remember by Walter Lord in 1955 and its subsequent film adaptation in 1958. That Lord himself went on to write a "sequel" in 1986 (The Night Lives On) gives a clue to the "merchandising" nature of this macabre fascination.
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Well said! As we are stuck in our own machines and trapped in a society that is governed by their pocket books, one could only imagine us without Hollywood, cyber media, XB, TV, Computers just to name a few. I have longed for the days I remember before even color tv was introduced, but will always remember the simplicity and innocence of it all.  Today's generation could not even imagine life without it, let alone cope with it. I look at my little girl of 11. She's got her own Facebook page, typing at a rate of at least 30 WPM replying to four friends at the same time? My son 14 on the XBox with a head set on,  playing and talking with his cyber friend in Japan? and just shake my head and wonder what's next?. We just relocated here in Kelowna BC, and we had to wait 7 Business days for the internet and cable was hooked up. Do you think I could get them out to do something? I offered to take them Camping, Fishing, Hiking...NOTHING WORKED! For me, it was the longest 7 days ever, because I had to listen to the lamentations of those two Electro techno monsters of mine. I know this was a bit out of topic, but it's all connected in one way or another. The power of media combined with the latest technology can, and only will get worse...God Help us all.  
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Originally posted by omegachance omegachance wrote:

Therefore I can clearly state that had there been no Cameron's film, the Titanic would have rotten away without anyone ever knowing about it. Titanic would be like any other Ship Lusitania, Estonia, Andrea Dorea, Bismark, or any shuttle disaster, or Natural disaster Katrina, India etc. RARELY SPOKE ABOUT! It was Hollywood and Hollywood alone the reason for such fuss. Not the disaster itself, or how much publicity they got back then... Think about it! 

Utter nonsense. She was as famed as a ship can be even before the movie here, some 80 years after her going down. No other ship was more famed than that one - and we have the Wasa. When the Estonia sank in 1994 it was the country's worst disaster and guess what is was compared to? It wasn't the Lusitania or Andrea Doria even though the latter met her demise with the Stockholm. I'd go so far to say that the movie got to much fame because of the disaster. No guy went to see Leo di Caprio and had his character followed the Lusitania to the depth, I doubt the movie would have gotten the same attention. 

Maybe the fuss about a certain individual can be somehow linked to the movie, but not the fame of the ship itself.


Admittedly, Swedes were the third largest nationality of the passengers, which certainly left its trace. Would be interesting to hear from others.


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