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    Posted: 17 Feb 2012 at 17:57
Obviously these choices for a thousand year period is a little broad, but here it is!

Some suggestions for other:

Celtic Lands
Pagan Norse
Slavic Kingdoms 
Hopewell Culture
Mongolian Khantes (I never really considered them much of a civilization myself) 
Turkish Sultanates 
Japanese Shougtnate
Korean Sillia 

For me it is a tie between the Byzantines and Tang China


Edited by fusong - 17 Feb 2012 at 17:58
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I chose Arabic Islamic World by far. Since most of world's dynamism was there. Bagdagh as world's most culturally advanced city. My second favorite is Byzantine Empire by far again. Roman tradition with a bit eastern flavor.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote fantasus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Feb 2012 at 19:07
"Medieval" and "Middle Ages" are words used about what is supposed to be a specific era in European history. Outside Europe such a period seems less relevant, and there is more that set those  above mentioned cultures or civilizations apart than any common ground - except of course they were human.
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We picked 1066 (Norman Conquest) - 1453 (Fall of Byzantium) period already. It's Crusader Kings II's time span too Cool

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Of your 'others' I went for the Celtics[1]. There's more to civilisations than conquests and wealth.
 
[1] Not the basketball team.
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Originally posted by gcle2003 gcle2003 wrote:

Of your 'others' I went for the Celtics[1]. There's more to civilisations than conquests and wealth.
 
[1] Not the basketball team.

that is why I choose China,
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That time Muslim civilization was great & favorite. cos, that time half of the world established Muslim religion. religion means civilization, I share with u that. thanks.
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The Byzantines. For being awful enough to resemble a soap opera.
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In the Old World, in the West my favorite is Venice. In the East, the Sung Dinasty of China. In the Americas, the Mayan city-states. I voted Venice, though, because I bet not many realize how important that city state was for the development of global civilisation.
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pinguin, it's Song. My favorite is the Zhu Regime in Zhengguo (Ming Dynasty of China). I liked the Song, but the Ming Huangdis helped cause the Qing Hala Khans, as did the Yuan Khagans. The Tang created modern writing systems in China. While the Song created the fiat currency systems and printing press font. The Ming created many of my family heirlooms. But they should still include the Yuan and Qing in the list because the Yuan was the late 1200s to the 1300s, and the Qing was a late Midieval- early Rennisance founding, and ending in the early 1900s.
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Hey fusong, just curious - why is it the Byzantines are one of your favourites?
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I don't have one favorite, but multiple ones.
The Kingdom of Hungary - my country was truly living it's Golden Age during the Middle Ages. We were the 3rd richest country in Europe during the Middle Ages.
Tang and Ming China - the invention of gunpowder, taking back your country after a century of Mongol rule, Zheng He's voyages... doesn't it sound exciting?
Japan - from the beginning, Japan's history have been exciting, ever since the prehistoric times. The Kamakura Bakufu, the Ashikaga Bakufu, the Sengoku Jidai (Warring States Era) and the Tokugawa Shogunate have all had interesting and exciting history.
Byzantium - the descendant of Rome, struggling for survival in a world overran by barbarians from both the West and the East... 
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Amazing. Not of the options included some of my favorite medieval nations and civilizations. The list excludes.

(1) The Norse, particularly the Vikings who conquered Greenland and the Americas.
(2) The Medieval Spain, that was a multicultural mixture of Arabic, Western and Jewish elements, and that also lead the world in knowledge and arts.
(3) Cahokia, The Incas, the Iroquois confederation and the Anasazi.
(4) Although mentions the Italian states, it doesn't show the importance of Venice in the Middle Ages.
(5) The Japanese
(6) The Russian and Slavic peoples.
(7) The Polynesians, that at that time owned the Pacific, which is half of the world


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WAIT A SECOND!! why isn't Yuan Dynasty listed in Medieval China??? The Order of medieval dynastic rule is : Tang, Song, Yuan, Ming, and early Qing eras (When I say Early Qing, I mean Nurhaci, Hongtaji, before the full Da Qing was established.
在財富的害處,而是一件好事永遠不持續。我在和平中仅居住在新的風下。 Wei Jia Hong No harm in wealth, but a good thing doesn't last forever. I live only among peace under
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Originally posted by Lao Tse Lao Tse wrote:

WAIT A SECOND!! why isn't Yuan Dynasty listed in Medieval China??? The Order of medieval dynastic rule is : Tang, Song, Yuan, Ming, and early Qing eras (When I say Early Qing, I mean Nurhaci, Hongtaji, before the full Da Qing was established.


The Yuan was a foreign dynasty
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Though not an empire, the democratic Icelanders and their offshoots in Greenland/America are in many ways v. admirable - Vikings with the unpleasant marauding element taken out. I always love voyages of discovery, so I find them intriguing.
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Originally posted by fusong fusong wrote:

Originally posted by Lao Tse Lao Tse wrote:

WAIT A SECOND!! why isn't Yuan Dynasty listed in Medieval China??? The Order of medieval dynastic rule is : Tang, Song, Yuan, Ming, and early Qing eras (When I say Early Qing, I mean Nurhaci, Hongtaji, before the full Da Qing was established.


The Yuan was a foreign dynasty
 
As was the Song. They were not han ethnicity, they were Jiang. And even though the Yuan was foreign , it was still should be listed before the Ming. If things were in that code then the Zhou wouldn't be declared, nor Qin, as an ancient dynasty. The Shang were native, but the Zhou were Western area of current China, as were the Qin family. The Mongols, although in their own region, were still in parts of central China, along with the northern region, which the Rourans once controlled.
在財富的害處,而是一件好事永遠不持續。我在和平中仅居住在新的風下。 Wei Jia Hong No harm in wealth, but a good thing doesn't last forever. I live only among peace under
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Definitely England. But then I am influenced by reading G.A. Henty.
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In Asia, the chinese Sung and Tang dinasties.
In Europe Venice and Al-Andalus
In the Americas the Mayans
In Africa, Mali and Zimbabwe
In the Pacific, the Polynesians

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