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    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 21:37
I really like our small community here. This place still looks like a peaceful haven after years of being active at reddit and youtube. I wasn't really active since quite a few years. Meanwhile I began to study teology in Istanbul University (currently on 3rd grade but obviously I spent a year for Arabic) and learned literary Arabic got married and currently expecting a baby boy. Things changed a lot for me, since I didn't had a job, education or anything going on at that time. I wasn't depressed at that time either but I was just anxious about life and about which direction to proceed. Well, I'm just back, a few years wiser hopefully. Glad to see you guys Smile
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Glad that you're back.  My background is (western) philosophy, but I always thought it might be interesting to study Arabic philosophy as something also stemming out of antiquity, and related but different from Western medieval philosophy.  I hear that Arabic is a very beautiful language, particularly in poetry.
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Well, for a lot of nations Arabic is just like what Latin is for Western Europe. That includes plenty of non-Arabic speaking countries like Turkey, Iran, India etc. I can pick up plenty of words from Indian movies just because of that. For comparison English sounds like a completely alien language from outer space to a Turk, no shared vocabulary (except for a few words of French origin) and no shared grammar. Until you study of course Tongue

I can only imagine Kurds having much easier time learning European languages since they share same ancient roots. English surely was a tough nut to crack for me. But later on it helped me immensely when learning some Arabic grammar. They didn't have much in similar for sure but my mind was already opened up to possibilities. There are so many ways to describe something LOL 
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I have studied some ancient Greek, Latin, German and Japanese.  Japanese has loan words for European language, which are obvious, because they're in a different "alphabet" then the other words (katakana or grass-writing), other than that Japanese is very different than Indo-European.  But, I agree the comparison with something totally different is quite illuminating.

My own background is a lot of the ancient Greek tradition, particularly philosophy, but I haven't neglected looking at non-philosophical stuff, although poetry is hard because my Greek is not very good.

I wonder how philosophy translates from Greek into Arabic.  I got a sense that Indo-European languages talk about "Being" as a thing, whereas non-indo-European languages don't.  Talking about "Being" as a thing lends itself to metaphysics.  Or at least that is some idea I picked up somewhere.  Of course, medieval Islamic philosophy was something that flourished for a certain period, and I know that the Arabic tradition is a lot richer than just that, but I sometimes wonder if Islamic philosophy rose again, would it help with some of the tensions between the West and the East?  What do you think?
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