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    Posted: 08 Jul 2009 at 03:19
http://www.globalchange.gov/publications/reports/scientific-assessments/us-impacts

Some of their key findings, which i have put into my own words and not theirs:

For those who live on the coast, i think it would be wise too invest in some snorkeling/scuba gear?

For those who farm, going Rambo on the insect pest will be the norm instead of an option.

Those who are into the raising of livestock, better be treating their animals so much better than they treat their own kids.

As far as human health is concerned, if all the diseases doesn't kill all of us, then the government programs  might finish up the rest?

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One can notice that the inhabitants of the little island nation Tuvalu in the Pacific Ocean can get into serious trouble if the climate changes and the level of the ocean rises. They are already now in negotiations with Australia to be allowed to move there if the sea would inundate their little country:

 


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First, where's the actual scientific data based on "observation" rather than abstractions derived from scenarios fed into computers? Second, where in the climatological experience of this planet has the planet experienced stasis, which after all is said and done is both fundamental premise and flaw in the eco-doom argument.
 
A coral archipelago has been mentioned, and here is a better source (speculation-wise and yet representative of the polemic):
 
 
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If the water level rises it could be due to man made climatological changes, or natural changes or a combination of both. In a longer perspective inundation of habitable land is not unusual, just look at the fate of Doggerland.
 
What todays environmentalists is proposing is maybe that the pace of climatic change today is unusually rapid.
 
 
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Originally posted by Carcharodon Carcharodon wrote:

If the water level rises it could be due to man made climatological changes, or natural changes or a combination of both. In a longer perspective inundation of habitable land is not unusual, just look at the fate of Doggerland.
 
What todays environmentalists is proposing is maybe that the pace of climatic change today is unusually rapid.
 
 
 
"Unusually rapid" in terms of what? The medieval "Little Ice Age" certainly hit far faster than any supposed contemporary average "rise" in sea levels...by the way, why hasn't it registered down in Australasia at those sites marked by the British Navy back in the 1840s? 
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At least the glaciers are melting away faster than usual, and that will for sure affect sea level in a certain degree if it continues. These glaciers are constantly monitored so there one can really see a change.

 
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Eek...the glaciers are melting, the glaciers are melting! The glaciers were melting 19,000 years ago and that process leading to a new Interglacial Period has yet to conclude. Besides, before the flurry of papers and data recreate the full blown controversy of "man-made" global warming right here on this Forum let us abstain from any variant that contains the word "anthro"...
 
 
Maybe, Louis Quinze had the right attitude to emulate: Aprez nous, le deluge!Evil Smile
 
Of course, perhaps all of this hysteria is but part of a larger problem: Too many people wasting time with computers.
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Originally posted by Carcharodon Carcharodon wrote:

If the water level rises it could be due to man made climatological changes, or natural changes or a combination of both. In a longer perspective inundation of habitable land is not unusual, just look at the fate of Doggerland.
 
 
 

I would hope so. Right now Sweden is rising and the bloody state steals all the new land, meaning that honest citizens will see their splendid sea-side properties become landlocked in a century or so. A little water-rising to compensate is all fine. 

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Originally posted by Styrbiorn Styrbiorn wrote:

I would hope so. Right now Sweden is rising and the bloody state steals all the new land, meaning that honest citizens will see their splendid sea-side properties become landlocked in a century or so. A little water-rising to compensate is all fine. 

 
If it is of any comfort one can notice that the southern part of the province of Scania actually slowly sinks.
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Originally posted by drgonzaga drgonzaga wrote:

Eek...the glaciers are melting, the glaciers are melting! The glaciers were melting 19,000 years ago and that process leading to a new Interglacial Period has yet to conclude. Besides, before the flurry of papers and data recreate the full blown controversy of "man-made" global warming right here on this Forum let us abstain from any variant that contains the word "anthro"...
 
 
Maybe, Louis Quinze had the right attitude to emulate: Aprez nous, le deluge!Evil Smile
 
Of course, perhaps all of this hysteria is but part of a larger problem: Too many people wasting time with computers.
 
Well, if the glaciers melt and all the cold water hits the ocean it can disturbe the thermohaline circulation and actually end this Interglacial period. Or not. The guys with the computers are still trying to figure it out.
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Originally posted by drgonzaga drgonzaga wrote:

First, where's the actual scientific data based on "observation" rather than abstractions derived from scenarios fed into computers? Second, where in the climatological experience of this planet has the planet experienced stasis, which after all is said and done is both fundamental premise and flaw in the eco-doom argument.
 


That was the basis of my argument when all of this flared up sometime ago! I am just always left too wonder if the discussion is dead as a door knell after the environmental groups steamrolled their way over rational dissent?
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yea it's hot as hell down here right now in Florida.
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When hasn't it been "hot as hell" in Florida absent the coastal breezes? Read the journals of John James Audobon from the early 19th century...admittedly, I can testify to the injurious effects of an insane construction pattern that exploded post 1960, but eventually the inability to obtain "insurance" will cure that malaise.
 
Oops, I forgot we will suddenly have some political nut proposing a national solution at tax-payer expense...hmm, the Florida Bailout--how's that for a double entendre? Evil Smile


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