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Greatest Ruler of England

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Poll Question: Who was the greatest leader of England?
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    Posted: 07 Jun 2013 at 10:53
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lao Tse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jun 2013 at 15:45
I vote Queen Elizabeth the First of England because of her accomplishments in her almost 50 year reign. She rebuilt the English economy that was ruined under Mary the First, she kept the Spanish Empire and its Armada out of English territory, and she was able to manipulate every single person that was needed in the name and benefit of the People of England.
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Due to lack of interest I cast my vote earlier than I planed to.

It was a close thing because I am a direct descendant of Oliver Cromwell, well on the other hand Alfred the Great is a pretty good king.

First of all in 700 years (I think) he was one of the three kings to learn to read.

He did not give up despite repeated invasions.

He fought in 54 field battles, winning 34 (I think)

Started to comply the laws of England, organized the judges.

Invented a type of lamp.

Started schools all over the kingdom.

and wrote a song I really like.(I am serious)

    

On the other hand if I hand if I hand chosen Oliver Cromwell I would be accused of favoritism
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I Concur with Voltage for the same reasons, bar the fact I am not related to Cromwell, although I would have been a Parliamentarian.
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I think my vote would go for Elizabeth I too, as I think she laid solid foundations for what would become the British Empire.
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Difficult question. I know Cromwell was a great general but I don't know enough about him as a statesman.

I'll vote for Athelstan even though he is not listed. He's the one who created England in the first place. He also managed to briefly rule the whole island of Britain, something not even the Romans had done and something that did not happen again until centuries later.
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By far, King Arthur.
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Quote When did this Athelstain character live exactly?

Circa 893-939 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athelstan_of_England

Quote By far, King Arthur.

Actually Arthur was welsh.

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I suspected it
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got a real good one King John the bad
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Four of these names shouldn't be on your list. Since the Act of Union in 1707 there have been no leaders of England and it's rather silly to include people who lived nearly 2,000 years ago.

Boudica, queen of the Iceni tribe, and the Roman emperor Constantine lived long centuries before the state of England came into existence. Neither were leaders of England. King Alfred, undoubtedly was a great man, but it could be argued that he was king of Wessex and not a united England. England and English consciousness as a national identity came much later with the fusion of Anglo-Saxon, Dane and Norman.

Winston Churchill was Prime Minister of the nation-state of Great Britain - not England - while Victoria was head of a toothless constitutional monarchy. (Perhaps you meant that great soldier, John Churchill, victor of Blenheim?)

So that leaves credible leaders of the nation of England as opposed to Britain or tribal identities within Britain:

Oliver Cromwell was a religious bigot and detested dictator, posthumously executed.

Henry V gained nothing for the nation except inspiration for Shakespeare.

Likewise Richard I did nothing for England, being absent on fruitless military quests.

William the Conqueror was capable but very cruel. He is still detested for laying waste much of the north of England. He also destroyed Anglo-Saxon England and supplanted it with Norman Feudalism.

Henry II is a good contender for the title, transforming the legal system of England. From your list, however, Elizabeth I towers above the rest. At a time when monarchs had real power Elizabeth was possessed of wisdom, courage, intelligence, uncanny female intuition and, above all, common sense. Her reign is still remembered here as a Golden Age.
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I voted for Queen Elizabeth--I assume QE I not II.

Even doing so I ask where were Edward I or III or Henry II certainly worthy of consideration.

Boadicea and Constantine not British as Alfred was not.

Churchilll. I grew up revering him. I remember as a young teen 13-14 calling him the man who saved Western civilization. Upon mature consideration I see him as the man who brought down the British Empire through his implacable enmity towards Hitler and the Nazis.

But my personal favorite who was not listed is Henry VII. When he defeated Richard III at Bosworth he inherited a Britain crushed by decades of bitter internecine warfare. The county was bankrupt and central authority was at best a memory. On the world stage it was a nonentity. There was every possibility that England could devolve into s group baronies, earldoms, dukedoms and what have you.

In a scant quarter century, Henry VII reunited the country under a central government, took it from bankruptcy to financial security, curbed the power of the barons, asserted the supremacy of the throne and created an environment of almost complete political stability.

If that aint great what am?
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