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Thanks that was helpful. 

This link has the full length feature film "Rabbit Proof Fence" it's outstanding. 
true story of three aboriginal girls who are forcibly taken from their families in 1931 to be trained as domestic servants as part of an official Australian government policy.
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Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwrpBgTfsGQ

Thanks that was helpful. 

This link has the full length feature film "Rabbit Proof Fence" it's outstanding. 
true story of three aboriginal girls who are forcibly taken from their families in 1931 to be trained as domestic servants as part of an official Australian government policy.

Yes, they form what is now called "The Stolen Generation". But I don't think it's as evil as it may appear.

The situation was that the government of the day recognised that the Aboriginal people were not progressing towards equality with white people in education, employment, health etc.

They rounded up a number of children who were taken to homes where the girls could learn skills as cooking, sewing and as general house maids, while the boys learned how to be farm hands. It worked to Aboriginal advantage to a small degree, but, psychologically, it harmed a generation for life.

Some of the children were relocated to homes nearer to towns where they could receive an education. Again, it was successful only to a small degree, but it did set the scene where a small number of Aboriginal men rose to some of the highest levels of the professions in the country, such as in law and politics.

There have been a few misguided schemes aimed at helping Aboriginal people that have failed. An example quite often quoted is the case where the Federal Government went to Aboriginal Country, and built the tribe houses, simple but suitable for the conditions. Each family was provided with a new Toyota Land Cruiser and a Solar powered public telephone was installed for community use. Six months or so later, welfare workers visited the settlement, to find it deserted. The houses had all been trashed, walls and doors burnt in the front yard, motor vehicles derelict with wheels and tyres either missing or destroyed.

Somewhat alarmed, the welfare workers set out to find the tribe, and did so.They were camped on the banks of a river near a small town, living under humpys and drinking large quantities of alcohol. Young people were sniffing petrol or other accelerants.

That they had abandoned Country was inexplicable, but they still went walkabout when they wanted, but wouldn't live in the white built houses. A typical case of their culture still not accepting parts of the white culture.

Militant Aborigines play these misguided attempts to help them as deliberate harm inflicted by white fellas. Harm inflicted, possibly, but not deliberate.

But not all Aborigines are still nomadic, some have lived in small settlements for generations, or on cattle stations-and they're happy with their lot. Some have been absorbed into the white community with good results-others, not so good.


An example of an Aboriginal Humpy.


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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwrpBgTfsGQ

Thanks that was helpful. 

This link has the full length feature film "Rabbit Proof Fence" it's outstanding. 
true story of three aboriginal girls who are forcibly taken from their families in 1931 to be trained as domestic servants as part of an official Australian government policy.

Yes, they form what is now called "The Stolen Generation". But I don't think it's as evil as it may appear.

The situation was that the government of the day recognised that the Aboriginal people were not progressing towards equality with white people in education, employment, health etc.

They rounded up a number of children who were taken to homes where the girls could learn skills as cooking, sewing and as general house maids, while the boys learned how to be farm hands. It worked to Aboriginal advantage to a small degree, but, psychologically, it harmed a generation for life.

Some of the children were relocated to homes nearer to towns where they could receive an education. Again, it was successful only to a small degree, but it did set the scene where a small number of Aboriginal men rose to some of the highest levels of the professions in the country, such as in law and politics.

There have been a few misguided schemes aimed at helping Aboriginal people that have failed. An example quite often quoted is the case where the Federal Government went to Aboriginal Country, and built the tribe houses, simple but suitable for the conditions. Each family was provided with a new Toyota Land Cruiser and a Solar powered public telephone was installed for community use. Six months or so later, welfare workers visited the settlement, to find it deserted. The houses had all been trashed, walls and doors burnt in the front yard, motor vehicles derelict with wheels and tyres either missing or destroyed.

Somewhat alarmed, the welfare workers set out to find the tribe, and did so.They were camped on the banks of a river near a small town, living under humpys and drinking large quantities of alcohol. Young people were sniffing petrol or other accelerants.

That they had abandoned Country was inexplicable, but they still went walkabout when they wanted, but wouldn't live in the white built houses. A typical case of their culture still not accepting parts of the white culture.

Militant Aborigines play these misguided attempts to help them as deliberate harm inflicted by white fellas. Harm inflicted, possibly, but not deliberate.

But not all Aborigines are still nomadic, some have lived in small settlements for generations, or on cattle stations-and they're happy with their lot. Some have been absorbed into the white community with good results-others, not so good.


An example of an Aboriginal Humpy.

That's roughn' it.  I realize that the mindset of colonial and European powers led them to believe that native peoples needed saving. They needed religion, western clothing and western learning. 

Well intended yes but also a selfish component that allowed the rationale of the inferiority of native people to persist. Aborigines didn't have a modern world view but their intelligence and understanding of the world sustained them in nature and "Rabbit Proof Fence" explains that harmony and superiority over modern man's idea of what natives should be.   
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Quote Well intended yes but also a selfish component that allowed the rationale of the inferiority of native people to persist. Aborigines didn't have a modern world view but their intelligence and understanding of the world sustained them in nature and "Rabbit Proof Fence" explains that harmony and superiority over modern man's idea of what natives should be.  

A point to be noted here is that many Australian Aborigines still do not have a modern world view. Even their nearest genetic cousins, the Papua/New Guineans have progressed much further, even in their most basic cultural aspects.

In many ways, it would probably have been better if the white people had left the Aborigines totally alone, allowed them to fend for themselves as they always had done. But of course the humanitarian interests could not be ignored, they had to have help in health, education and so on. Unfortunately the bad elements of white culture also attached themselves, drinking alcohol, smoking, drug use and domestic violence.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.




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