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How to represent the history of earth and planets

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    Posted: 09 Jul 2015 at 13:42
Here some ideas how it could be done - combined with a question wether it has already been done anywhere (it would not surprise me that much).
Admittedly historians usually occupy themselves with the period humans recorded anything by writing it Down on some material. An estimated 5000 years more or less, or a Little more than 1.8 million days. A very short time(about one in a million) compared to the time the earth and solar system has existed, according to relevant scieces (approximately 4500 million years). So how could we make a representation of those years, let us say some "museum" with a "yearbook" (or book with at least every Century, a good human lifetime)? It could be a path, with texts and figures representing important events, either in the free or inside some Building, where spectators could walk or transport themselves by other Means. If that walk is a Little more than one "marathon", about 45 kilometres, I get that each milimetre or about the breath of a broad needle, represent one Century or a long human life. In other Words a "marathon runner" would pass the distance of his own lifetime by moving his toe about the lengt of the end of his toenail. I don´t know if any such walk exist anywhere in the World, and what kind of events is represented there, but the idea fascinates me (and I think many people find "scaling" - miniaturising or the opposite fascinating).

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What proof is there for the orthodox date of the earth and universe? It is only their theory. They say the dust on the moon in the lunar landing was only inch/es thick? (unless the landing was a hoax as some say?)
Though the challenge is still valid whether past or future:
Evolutionists have similar to eternity before our times (4500 million years).
Judeo-Christians believe that there will be eternity in the new heaven & new earth (spend eternity exploring God's new heavens).

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Originally posted by truthsetsfree truthsetsfree wrote:

What proof is there for the orthodox date of the earth and universe? It is only their theory. They say the dust on the moon in the lunar landing was only inch/es thick? (unless the landing was a hoax as some say?)
Though the challenge is still valid whether past or future:
Evolutionists have similar to eternity before our times (4500 million years).
Judeo-Christians believe that there will be eternity in the new heaven & new earth (spend eternity exploring God's new heavens).

My OP was not realy part of any discussion since I see that view as rather well established, but then, OK, doubt it if You wish.
That said I find Your remark about lunar dust and landing rather irrellevant to my post, since the later is not about the lunar landings (not that I doubt it).
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A different representation,not of history of solar system and earth, but their scale relative to stellar neighbourhood: They could be "miniaturised" by a factor 10 billion. Then a representation of our solar system and the nearest stars could be made, if we are willing to compromise a bit with the spherical form of our planet (cartograohers already do so, making "projections" of the round earth upon "flat" maps). We would need a country, or more, where distances are in the thopusands of kilometres (a bit less in miles). Size of "earth" and inner planets: around one millimetre, or perhaps the tip of our fingernails (or the needles eye). The big planets: somewhat over one centimetre or the full length of adult fingernail. Thre sun - and some other stars: about 14 centimetres, a bit shorter than my hand. The distance to Pluto, where the "New Horisons" will pass in a couple of days: A bit less than one half kilometre, or to the nearest Blocks if You live in a city. The distance to closest stars:: Acrooss a continent, say The US, Canada, China, Australia, or nearly from one end of Chile or Argentina to the other. I Wonder if any attemps have been made to make such a representation, since it should be a realistic goal.
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I think it has been done for the solar system, or maybe it was just done in a video with the speaker marking of city blocks.  I think it would be neat to lay out along one street, in proportion to the size and distances of the planets, include plaques for asteroids, the Kuiper belt and even maybe the astrophere.  Barely outside of this we could put dots (and labels) for the voyager probes, at the time of the laying of the plaques.
a more grisly version of this could be done with ground zero at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.  btw, Nagasaki was not the first choice for the second target, Ishihaya (Ishihara??) was, but it was clouded over, and the American military wanted to arially photograph the results afterwords, needless to say, the inhabitants of Ishihaya recognize a debt of gratitude to Nagasaki.  

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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

I think it has been done for the solar system, or maybe it was just done in a video with the speaker marking of city blocks.  I think it would be neat to lay out along one street, in proportion to the size and distances of the planets, include plaques for asteroids, the Kuiper belt and even maybe the astrophere.  Barely outside of this we could put dots (and labels) for the voyager probes, at the time of the laying of the plaques.
a more grisly version of this could be done with ground zero at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.  btw, Nagasaki was not the first choice for the second target, Ishihaya (Ishihara??) was, but it was clouded over, and the American military wanted to arially photograph the results afterwords, needless to say, the inhabitants of Ishihaya recognize a debt of gratitude to Nagasaki.  

Yes it has been for the solar system. But if You want to include even the nearest star, You have to downsize our homeplanet to one or at most two or three millimetres if the "representation" are not to be larger than earht.
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