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Human understanding of earth and celestial objects

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Oh, woe is me!!

Let's just look at what you wrote again.
Quote the earth was visible

As I wrote-to whom, some celestial travellers?  It's an absurd statement, whether you consider it sloppy or otherwise.

Of course Earth was visible, people were walking on it. They didn't know it as earth though. 

The stars were visible to ancient humans, depending where they were on earth at the time. they would see some stars and not others.

And I was talking about ancient humans not those born a thousand or so years later.

Pull your socks up Frank, you're slipping further and further.



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I thought that you said nine of them (those stars) were planets.  But if you are talking about antiquity, there are 5 planets, + Earth.  For the Pythagoreans, there were 10 celestial bodies, sun, moon, Mercury, Venus, [Earth], Mars, Jupiter, Saturn. stars, and the Antichthon (opposite Earth).  There is also something about an invisible fire, or the hearth.

Do you know where the planet Vulcan came from?  Before Star Trek?
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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

I thought that you said nine of them (those stars) were planets.  But if you are talking about antiquity, there are 5 planets, + Earth.  For the Pythagoreans, there were 10 celestial bodies, sun, moon, Mercury, Venus, [Earth], Mars, Jupiter, Saturn. stars, and the Antichthon (opposite Earth).  There is also something about an invisible fire, or the hearth.

Do you know where the planet Vulcan came from?  Before Star Trek?

1. No, I didn't say that.

2. I'm not talking antiquity, if I used that word, it was an error, I'm talking Stone Age and even before that.

3. I'm not a Pythagorean.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Vanuatu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2018 at 17:03
Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

"As for the stars, they were visible to the naked eye thousands of years before anyone named nine of them planets. How wondrous would they have been to ancient humans?"

What is visible to the naked eye?  The stars.
".... before anyone named nine of them planets."  What is them? again the stars.  "Named nine of them planets."  Earth is a planet, but it was never named "a star," and it is visible, no?  Clap
You learn that in bible class franciscosan? :)
but seriously planets do 

scin·til·late
verb
  1. emit flashes of light; sparkle.
    • fluoresce momentarily when struck by a photon or charged particle.

Quote I'm just having a little fun with you, toyomotor, but I do think your statement is a little sloppy and not as clear as you might think.....

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Vanuatu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2018 at 17:07
Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Oh, woe is me!!

Let's just look at what you wrote again.
Quote the earth was visible

As I wrote-to whom, some celestial travellers?  It's an absurd statement, whether you consider it sloppy or otherwise.

Of course Earth was visible, people were walking on it. They didn't know it as earth though. 

The stars were visible to ancient humans, depending where they were on earth at the time. they would see some stars and not others.

And I was talking about ancient humans not those born a thousand or so years later.

Pull your socks up Frank, you're slipping further and further.


You were on topic toyomotor 
The discussion is human understanding, which began with early humans. Not Greek gender benders.
Doesn't nature already sync with planetary movements? The SEASONS? 

Does not the squirrel storeth his nuts?
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