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    Posted: 28 Jun 2009 at 17:37
I've been feeling angry and irritated over the past couple of days at the non-stop news coverage both here in the US as well as international, over the gloved one's death. Yes it is sad that Michael Jackson met an early demise but for all purposes the man basically destroyed himself and that there is much more important issues both here in the US and aboard that need to be covered like Obama's healthcare plan or the controversy over the Iranian election. Not covering 24/7 about why Michael Jackson died!Angry 

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Just chalk it up to the fascination for bread and circuses given that such did not die out with the Roman Empire!
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I completely agree Kevin. I'm sad that the world lost such an obvious talent too, but the media circus these sort of cases create is nothing short of infuriating. As a way of comparison, following the death of Jade Goody this year in the UK (A low life, moronic racist bully who endeared the British public because she decided to spend her last couple of months in the most gruesome and obscene media rat race imaginable) the news coverage is unbearable to watch.

I remember round the time of the death of Heath Ledger a news report came through that roughly 50,000 people had died through violence in the Congo during that month. The 50,000 black people got a few lines in the Guardian, Heath Ledger was given a multi-page media frenzy speculating on his death.

Michael Jackson died. A great performer and singer died. Big deal.
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Originally posted by Kevin Kevin wrote:

I've been feeling angry and irritated over the past couple of days at the non-stop news coverage both here in the US as well as international, over the gloved ones death. Yes it is sad that Michael Jackson met an early demise but for all purposes the man basically destroyed himself and that there is much more important issues both here in the US and aboard that need to be covered like Obama's healthcare plan or the controversy over the Iranian election. Not covering 24/7 about why Michael Jackson died!Angry 


Get a life. Star

People liked him...

The Iranian coverage is important, but regardless has no bearing on sentimental news coverage, which domminates news, beside, why bother watching TV News anyway, when there are far better avenues?
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Originally posted by es_bih es_bih wrote:



Get a life. Star

People liked him...



Yes, people liked him, so that is why you cover it for a day or two. Not for a total of now four days and counting. This is not news, this is tabloidy reporting. The man had some talent and that should be honored, but this has gone on too long. By the way, Billy Mays just died.Unhappy
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"People liked him..."???!!!!???
 
People like lots of things but such does not excuse the morbid curiosity and the weirdness of it all at the hands of the MSM. If the Medium is the Massage, the balm being applied by the MSM is pure detritus. I bet you that Pyongyang is ready to fire another missile just to "beat it" off the HD screens...can't wait for the funeral. Now that will be papparazzi heaven!
 
PS: Even in terms of Pop Music...get a grip! A footnote remains a footnote unless you wish to propose Liberace as the apex of the pianissimo!
 
 


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Have you actually changed the fact that the media still does this? No reason to complain about the obvious. 
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Twitter, Wikipedia, Google and various news websites all collapsed because of his death, IIRC 30% of the discussions at Twitter revolved around him, thats six times the amount the US election and the Iran crisis generated, clearly there is demand for news about him and his death, and in the end it's all about what will attract the most 'viewers'.
 
 
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Originally posted by Kevin Kevin wrote:

I've been feeling angry and irritated over the past couple of days at the non-stop news coverage both here in the US as well as international, over the gloved one's death. Yes it is sad that Michael Jackson met an early demise but for all purposes the man basically destroyed himself and that there is much more important issues both here in the US and aboard that need to be covered like Obama's healthcare plan or the controversy over the Iranian election. Not covering 24/7 about why Michael Jackson died!Angry 


You know, you have a point there. Clap

Originally posted by drgonzaga drgonzaga wrote:

Just chalk it up to the fascination for bread and circuses given that such did not die out with the Roman Empire!


LOL  And this is an exceptionally entertaining historical reply. XD Nice, Drgonzaga
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Sounds just like what we went through when Steve Irwin died.
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Cry Steve Irwin
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^ Yeah, he was undeniably cool. 
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Steve Irwin? Crikey - i loved his shows! I rarely mourn for celebrities, but that day was just downright depressing.




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The media is scum what's new?

And I really couldn't stand Steve Irwin, a national disgrace that he ever got on TV as far as I'm concerned (and that links back to my first statement )
I have to say though, neither MJ or Irwins death was in the least bit surprising, they both died in the way you'd most expect given their characters.


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Don't watch the news or read the papers if you don't want to see articles on Michael Jackson. It is not the media's responsibility to adhere to what you think is the most important news, it merely reflects and exploits what is the most saleable. 50,000 dead in the Congo is not going to make people buy the paper, but 'MJ death predicted by Nostradamus' would. Infuriating as it is, that is the reality of both our global media and our global idiocy.
 
 
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As es_bih pointed out the media is all about sensationalism, that is what sells.  Tune in to any news channel on any given day and it will be the same:   someone was stabbed, shot, died in a boating accident and so on.  International news, if even covered at all, gets maybe a quick 5 minute treatment.  Michael Jackson was one of the most talented musicians of the past 50 years.  The vast majority of Americans were far more attached on an emotional level to him (and other famous individuals) than the unknown masses elsewhere in the world, (or even in the US) it is sad but nonetheless true.  It is why such a big deal is made out of actors, athletes etc.  They live the glamorous life and are supremely talented, (at least in theoryWink) what happens to them is far more exciting and tragic than the unnamed child dying of starvation in some third world country.  People want to live the life of a celebrity, hence the attention/adoration.  I cannot believe I'm using Stalin as a source, but I believe it was he who said, (or is supposed to have said) "One death is a tragedy, one million is a statistic."  It is human nature.
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steve irwin really really annoyed me, not a patch on David Attinborough....

MJ was dead for a long time, if anything he has been released. I am appalled at the coverage but not suprised, anyway its a ratings winner and all commercial.

Old MJ is worthy of mourning the scarecrow he became is not.


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I am in full agreeance with ResoundingEagle and Panther - Steve Irwin was fantastic and I mourned his death. He was a charismatic personality who loved and was dedicated to what he did, and who also contributed greatly to his field of work in herpetology and animal ethology. Not to mention pioneering (with his parents) a fantastic conservation facility - Australia Zoo, and extending this enthusiasm to his wide audience. Many people are now more aware and concerned about conservation issues through his efforts, I would say.

Yes people are entitled to their own opinion about him. I think it is going overboard to simply say that he had it coming, especially in a spiteful manner (*cough*Germaine Greer*cough*). I even think some of his actions (Baby Bob in the croc show for instance) were a bit daft, but I will not let this overshadow the rest of his career. In regards to what Leo said; people may know that Attenborough is my personal hero, but I am not going to directly compare the two, because many aspects of their careers and work differ. Attenborough epitomises nature documenting and broadcasting, and Steve Irwin has been a very influential figure in the field of conservation and public awareness/education.

I apologise for ranting. Though, I feel for instance that it is too harsh to call Steve Irwin a "national disgrace". PS. I openly admit my emotional bias because of my passion for animals and conservation.
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Originally posted by Constantine XI Constantine XI wrote:

Sounds just like what we went through when Steve Irwin died.
 
...and Martin Luther died. Hundreds of groupies beleaguered the Wartburg and all messengers carried the news into the known world. All festivals were inturrupted and the thespian performed anectodes of Luther's life.
 
But Martin Luther was the better singer.....
 
 
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Yeah I miss Steve Irwin his show was great and I beleive in his cause. I remember when Anna Nicole Smith died; I guess the news thought she was more important than dead U.S. soldiers. As for Michael Jackson, I never cared much for his music but he was pretty epic. four days is a bit too much for MJ but as far as I've seen today the news has been covering Obama right now.
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I agree and yes there are more important stories out there but the media today majors on the minor.
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…all this media frenzy was easy to predict so I took a few precautionary measures….I knew all the radio stations would be swamped with endless replays of MJ’s musicDead….Christ, it was bad enough when he was alive….but now its worse… so, I am only listening to Classic FM, which unless the London Philharmonic Orchestra has produced an arrangement of ‘Thriller’, I should be able to remain Michael ‘bloody’ Jackson free in my listening pleasures……Big smile..
 

….I have not bought a newspaper since ‘his’ death and will not do so until I get positive signs that all the media and gossip dogs have filled their guts with the story…for the time being, my news is found on-line where I can do my own censoring…..and I have warned friends and family that like the Big Brother TV show, chat about MJ is strictly ‘out of bounds’ when I am around..!!Ouch

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The hysteria is increasing, today the newspapers report that around a dozen people have committed suicide out of grief over Michael Jacksons death. One can wonder if those people had no life of their own, instead of living their lives through celebrities. Really tragic indeed.
And the media are reinforcing those phenomena through the crazy hype.
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People still check out the MSM?
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TAlENT I think not
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Originally posted by Kevin Kevin wrote:


I've been feeling angry and irritated over the past couple of days at the non-stop news coverage both here in the US as well as international, over the gloved one's death. Yes it is sad that Michael Jackson met an early demise but for all purposes the man basically destroyed himself and that there is much more important issues both here in the US and aboard that need to be covered like Obama's healthcare plan or the controversy over the Iranian election. Not covering 24/7 about why Michael Jackson died!Angry 


Well, Mate, here it is, five years later. Are you still taking your ulcer meds?

Yeah, you're right, there are far more important things in life for the media to be promoting, but they don't necessarily sell newspapers or advertising time on TV.

Chill out, take your meds and let the world go by.
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