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    Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 16:11

It becomes more and more obvious that the traditional knowledge of indigenous peoples is important for our ability to create a sustainable society and solve some of our many social and environmental problems.

The knowledge about this interest more and more researchers. Here is one example of a new book that adresses this issue:

 

Practical knowledge about the nature is a cornerstone for the entire humanity. The traditional knowledge of the indigenous peoples can show the way to a sustainable society, but the knowledges are still not so well known. A new book from the Center for Biological Diversity at the SLU (Swedish agrarian University) and the Sami parliament focuses on traditional knowledge among the Sami people, an indigenous people in Scandinavia.

 

In the cultures of traditional indigenous peoples we can find many solutions to the problems the world faces today.  Arbediehtu, the sami word for this knowledge has made it possible for them to succesfully live in diverse ecological niches. The Sami knowledge are now requested by natural management and coservationists since it can contribute to biodiversity and ecological sustainability. Now different ways of utilizing traditional knowledge are adressed in a new book.

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A common misconception is that the traditional knowledge only has a cultural value or a value in the context of museums. But actually, it becomes more and more obvious that this kind of knowledge will play a central role in a sustainable utilization of biodiversity.

 

 

The book Arbediehtu, about traditional Sami knowledge.

  

The knowledge of indigenous peoples is an important heritage that we must allow to live, both for the sake of the indigenous peoples themselves and also for our own sake.

 
http://www.slu.se/sv/om-slu/fristaende-sidor/aktuellt/alla-nyheter/2011/3/arbediehtu-samisk-traditionell-kunskap-i-ny-bok/


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Oh for goodness sakes another barbarism in language usage!
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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

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Indeed Indeed Indeed ...
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Someone should study and write down all this knowledge before it dies out, because many 'indigenous' peoples forget to leave records. Embarrassed


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"Indeed, indeed, indeed, etc.!Smile
 
Just a little defence/defense, for my well insulated friend Pinguin!
 
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No it doesn't.
 


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Originally posted by gcle2003 gcle2003 wrote:

Originally posted by Carcharodon Carcharodon wrote:

It becomes more and more obvious that the traditional knowledge of indigenous peoples is important for our ability to create a sustainable society

No it doesn't.
 
 
Indeed it does. And if you had followed the literature on this subject you would be aware of that.
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You mean if I had followed the books telling me it is becoming more and more obvious I would believe it was becoming more and more obvious?
 
Doesn't follow. I've read the Bible and I'm not Christian or Jewish. For that matter I've read the Book of Mormon and may other writings without being converted.
 
I don't think reading Mein Kampf as a child would have made me a Nazi either. People don't always fall for propaganda.
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Originally posted by gcle2003 gcle2003 wrote:

You mean if I had followed the books telling me it is becoming more and more obvious I would believe it was becoming more and more obvious?
 
Doesn't follow. I've read the Bible and I'm not Christian or Jewish. For that matter I've read the Book of Mormon and may other writings without being converted.
 
I don't think reading Mein Kampf as a child would have made me a Nazi either. People don't always fall for propaganda.
 
Well, it is hard to compare the Bible, Mein Kampf or Mormons book to books based on research and facts. Everything is not propaganda just because it goes against your view of the world.
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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

Someone should study and write down all this knowledge before it dies out, because many 'indigenous' peoples forget to leave records. Embarrassed


Indigenous knowledge is very well documented. At least in Latin America. From languages to herbal medicine, from cosmology to techniques, there are full libraries with the knowledge of ancient peoples. Thanks God.
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Originally posted by gcle2003 gcle2003 wrote:

Originally posted by Carcharodon Carcharodon wrote:

It becomes more and more obvious that the traditional knowledge of indigenous peoples is important for our ability to create a sustainable society

No it doesn't. 
Off, course it does, gcle! "Obvious" is the ultimate tool in assesing what value our knowledge has.
It is "obvious" that the surface of the Earth is FLAT! Try and make a marble stay on a basket ball! It won't so it's "obvious" that the Earth's surface is FLAT!
More so, when someone says "it's obvious" one cannot dismiss the fact by saying it is not. If it's "obvious" for a single person then it's "obvious" for anyone else. That's how "obvious" works and that's why it rules!
"the traditional knowledge of indigenous peoples" is obviously obvious the obvious way to deal with our society problems. The tribes in the Amazon basin know far better than the guys on Wall Street how to deal with stock markets. They use the knowledge of unknowing about the stuff and since the Wall Street people seem to now not how to handle assests although they claim they do then off course we could cut the crap and forget about stocks. Traditional indigenous knowledge is far better tha a PhD. These "doctors" are nothing but a bunch of parasytes, we would fare better without Ba,Bs, Mba and so on and so forth.
Hunter-gatherers are teh very best. Simple tasks for everyone. "Can you make a bow or another useful tool?" - "No" - "Do you know how to use one?" - "No" - "Can you learn?" - "Hardly!" - "Can you track animals?" - "No" - "Can you cook animals" - "I leave that to my wife" - "What the hell can you do?" - "Mainly walk, a little running, eat, and sleep" - "Okay, you'll charge at the mammouth herd with a stick in your hand yelling you lungs out"
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There are several cathegories of knowledge of the peoples of the Amazons, and other tribal peoples. The problem is the idea that this knowledge can't be transmitted to the rest of the people, to Latinos or to Westerners in general. That's false. By now, there are whole countries like Paraguay, where people speak an Amazonian related language: Guarani. There is a whole continent -South America- where people drink mate, replace suggar with stevia and many customs more. Peoples in the rivers of the jungle, still today, and no matter they aren't pure indigenous and put an Evinrude to propell them, still use the traditionals canoes.

Keeping the hunting techniques of the natives, it is interesting in itself, but most of it is already known. Shamanic knowledge is well documented. Even more, natives themselves are in  the process of westernization.

Keeping them in the jungle, in theirs survival lifestyle, just to please Carcha, it is simply ridiculous and inhuman.




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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

 
Keeping them in the jungle, in theirs survival lifestyle, just to please Carcha, it is simply ridiculous and inhuman.
In this thread, I think the idea is for us to get our inspiration for solving problems from the Sami. So, not even back to the jungle or stay in the jungle, looks more like: go get a frostbite!
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You are right. But Carcha wants to convince us with the idea that the modern man doesn't know the indigenous peoples. That's false. Remember that Amundsen went to live with the Inuits before he tried to reach the South Pole, learning Inuits techniques for survival in extreme cold conditions, and perhaps that was the reason he suceed.
I bet many people in Sweden are aware and know well all the knowledge of  the Samis, no matter Carcha spread the idea that the rest of the world is not aware of them.

Come on, here in Chile, I know quite a lot about our fellow Mapuche natives, theirs language, traditions, handcrafts, textile industry, symbols, music, cosmology, beliefs systems, foods, medicine, etc., because -obviously- anywhere two cultures are in contact influences spread both ways.
For instance, it is quite obvious that North Americans were influenced by American Indians. Otherwise you wouldn't see rootbeer, maple syrup, bark canoe paddling, tracking, war tactics and many other things in that culture.



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Well, the modern man knows about the indigenous peoples (after all there are tons of books written about them, and a lot of scientific articles and dissertations about indigenous knowledge) but that does not mean that we can not learn more. The subject of indigenous knowledge is a rich and varied one and there is always more to learn.
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Indigenous knowledge? Right here: complete, collected and yours for only 10 euromoney: http://www.bokus.com/bok/9789186289188/bondepraktikan/. 
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