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    Posted: 17 Nov 2016 at 21:17
Of course, one can get many like these from the bottom of Northman's posts.
Comments, groans, exclamations of joy are welcome.

There are two types of people, those who think there are two types of people, and those who don't.


All Cretans are liars, said Epimenides the Cretan.

There are two things
things wrong with 
this sentence.
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I would rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

For the saying,
"There are two things
things wrong with
this sentence."
So the question is, is the above sentence true or false?
It is false, because looking at the sentence there is one thing wrong with the sentence, the fact that "things" is repeated twice.  However, in seeing that there is one thing wrong with the sentence we see a second thing wrong with the sentence, the fact that there is only one thing, not two things wrong with sentence.  However, by recognizing a second thing wrong with the sentence, we realize that there is indeed, two things wrong with the sentence, thereby making the sentence true.  But if it is true that there are two things wrong with the sentence but at the same time the second thing must be true, and so we are back to one thing wrong with the sentence.  Clear as mud?  What this teaches us is that these "errors" are in different categories, and that we should not mix the categories, but if we do, we can end up in logical conundrums such as asking whether there is one thing or two things wrong with the above sentence.

People know what a set is, the set of all even single digit positive numbers is (2, 4, 6, 8).  
Now does the set of all sets, include itself? or does it not include itself?
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Some good ones there so far.

I had a really good thread on quotes/sayings/proverbs/maxims etc on allempires a month  or two ago and Centrix closed/locked it which really annoyed me.
I can't really post it all again here, please have a look and let us know here any you like.
http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36935

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truthsetsfree, feel free to add a couple or three every few days, 
but remember: 
less is more.

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Originally posted by truthsetsfree truthsetsfree wrote:

Some good ones there so far.

I had a really good thread on quotes/sayings/proverbs/maxims etc on allempires a month  or two ago and Centrix closed/locked it which really annoyed me.
I can't really post it all again here, please have a look and let us know here any you like.
http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36935


As a result of your post, I had a quick look at the All Empires site, for the first time since I joined this forum, and was astaounded at the number of suspesions and bans.

My experience was that the moderators on AE were power crazy and would only tolerate one opinion, theirs.

You certainly made the correct decision when you joined WH.
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From: Springs of Roman Wisdom, Search Press Ltd, England.

Accept the things to which fate binds you.  
And love the people with whom fate brings you together,
but do so with all your heart.
Marcus Aurelius

What a small portion of infinite and 
immeasurable time is allowed to each of us.
It is so quickly swallowed up by eternity. 
How small is the cold of earth which you
crawl about.  
Remember all these things and consider
nothing great but this: do what Nature 
bids you and suffer what Life brings.
Marcus Aurelius

An easy task becomes difficult 
when you do it with reluctance.
Terence

Marcus Aurelius was the emperor who was also a stoic philosopher, Terence was a comic playwright.
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More from Springs of Roman Wisdom,

Not he who has little,
but he who desires much
is poor.
Seneca

Money has never yet
made anyone rich.
Seneca

Back in the Empire, 
even then they knew that (monetary) wealth 
is not a matter of income, 
but a matter of income compared to expenses.

Be favorable to bold beginnings.
Virgil

Another saying, this time from my faulty memory:

Don't live as if you were going to die tomorrow,
but live as if you might die tomorrow.
Seneca??
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I recently was looking for name of a netting fencing material and found these fences quotes:

"Good fences make good neighbors." – a proverb quoted by Robert Frost in the poem "Mending Wall"

"A good neighbour is a fellow who smiles at you over the back fence, but doesn't climb over it." – Arthur Baer

"Love your neighbor, but don't pull down the fence." - German proverb.

"Fear is the highest fence." – Dudley Nichols

"To be fenced in is to be withheld." – Kurt Tippett

"What have they done to the earth? / What have they done to our fair sister? / Ravaged and plundered / and ripped her / and bit her / stuck her with knives / in the side of the dawn / and tied her with fences / and dragged her down." – Jim Morrison, of The Doors

"Don't Fence Me In" – Cole Porter

[Pun: "Best defense is an offense"?]

franciscosan: I am afraid that i am not much of a fan of Romans/Latins since they seem to be the modern western world secret rulers behind so many evils (see http://www.allempires.com/forum/ebook_view.asp?BookID=104 and http://historum.com/general-history/69688-why-so-few-non-italian-popes-4.html#post2644623 and http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36908 and http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36505  ) (prominent contemporary roman/latin/popish names/words/people/etc include fluoride/fluoridation, publius enigma, peter, forum, mercury, etc etc etc).

toyomotor: AE are nothing compared to Historum who have unfairly banned me 3 times (see http://historum.com/blogs/gold+heart/31675-appealing-unfair-suspension.html ).

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truthsetsfree wrote" http://historum.com/blogs/gold+heart/31675-appealing-unfair-suspension.html "

I don't know whether you've seen some of my original posts, and I won't rehash them now, but I was banned by AE because the Mods said that another member and I were the same person, although we live on opposite sides of the planet, and that we were "notorious spammers".

Of course I protested but to no avail. No review, no apology, no reinstatement. But in the end I benefitted, I found World Historia, which I have found to be an excellent forum, with sensible administrators.


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Good theme.
a "fence sitter" is someone who won't commit to one side or the other of an issue (or in a binary system, candidate).

"The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence."  means that it seems like the other guy has a better deal in life than one's self does.
Erma Bombeck said that "the grass is always greener under the septic tank."

Getting a "house with a white picket fence" means to achieve a nice, cozy (but modest) status in life.

You don't have to like the Romans, truthsetfree, but I hope you take words of wisdom from wherever you find it.  I don't like the brutality of the Romans, but there are good people everywhere (and bad people too), even amongst the ancient Romans.
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Earlier I gave this question, "does the set of all sets, included itself?"  The answer is no, the set of all sets does not include itself, or otherwise there would be an infinite regress.

thus:
There are sets of A, B, C, etc. (for example set A might be the set of all prime numbers less than 100). 
Let set XY represent the set of all sets.
if set XY is the set of all sets, and includes itself, then there is a bigger set than the set XY for XY=(XY, A, B, C, etc.), but this is absurd for XY is the set of all sets, and thus is the biggest set.  Therefore, the set of all sets cannot include itself.
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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

Earlier I gave this question, "does the set of all sets, included itself?"  The answer is no, the set of all sets does not include itself, or otherwise there would be an infinite regress.
thus:
There are sets of A, B, C, etc. (for example set A might be the set of all prime numbers less than 100). 
Let set XY represent the set of all sets.
if set XY is the set of all sets, and includes itself, then there is a bigger set than the set XY for XY=(XY, A, B, C, etc.), but this is absurd for XY is the set of all sets, and thus is the biggest set.  Therefore, the set of all sets cannot include itself.

Huh? franciscoan your intelligence shows no bounds, but to provide information like this is to confuse and old man like me. I never did figure out algebra!
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well, you know what a set is, say, for example the set of even single digit even numbers (2, 4, 6), or even an infinite set (but limited) of prime numbers (numbers divisible only by one and itself), or all circles, or all red objects.

But don't worry, none of this will be on the test....  <grin>
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All things in moderation, including moderation.

Not to decide, is to have decided.

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"Beware of martyrs and those who would die for their beliefs; for they frequently make many others die with them, often before them, sometimes instead of them."
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If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.  (the band, Rush)

Moderation is for monks!  (saying of Lazarus Long, Robert Heinlein).

A man from Apollonius of Pontica came up to the Athenian leader Pericles and said, "if you were from Apollonius you would not be famous."   The Athenian leader responded, "yes, and if you were from Athens, you would still not be famous."  
(the original story gives a equally (for our purposes) obscure place).

People gathered around a famous Olympic wrestler and they asked him who was the best wrestler he had ever seen.  He answered, "Pericles of Athens."  The questioner said, "but he is not a wrestler, he is a politician."  The wrestler said, "you don't understand.  I could get in the ring with him, and throw him, but he would get up, and convince the crowd that it was not he who was thrown, but I.  And he would be so convincing that even I would be convinced."

Protagoras of Abdera, the sophist, an associate of Pericles called argumentation, "wrestling."
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