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Is Globalization in retreat?

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    Posted: 06 Sep 2009 at 12:49
Hey guys. Ok so I have an upcomming International Relations presentation on the above topic, and wanted to get some views from various sides of the world to see what everyone else thought.
 
So with the current global financial crisis, is Globalisation in retreat?
 
I'm interested in seeing what you all think on this matter, so any useful insightful views would be much appreciated Big smile
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This answer may be all wrong. If You give a simple, autoritative precise consensus definition of "globalisation" You even prove it. But untill then for me the meaning of "globalisation" is vague. Feelings, sensations, very fit for proclamations and manifestos.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Panther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Sep 2009 at 05:09
I don't think it is in retreat, perhaps stalled at the moment. I am guessing some of the symptoms for it to be in retreat might be: All international airports would start too shut down, international borders would need to be closed, trade treaties like NAFTA abandoned the world over, The UN disbanded, The EU project abandoned entirely, people disconnected from the internet and ect...

Then again as fantasus pointed out, i could be wrong and maybe the few things i offered does not even fit within the parameters of what defines globalization? Maybe we do need too establish whatever the criteria is/are that sets our modern globalization apart from other eras in human history?
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Let us for a moment restrict us to "economic activities" in a wider sense: Exchange of goods, services and financial transactions. Perhaps what may happen is not a reversal of it on a global scale, but rather that these areas may be less "autonomous": You can participate all You wish - but if (very big IF) You behave so and so: regarding "environment" in a wider sense, but perhaps allso one day regarding labour, the "rights" issue, of course "international" behaviour (war and peace) and perhaps more issues. Examples could of course be Cuba and Irak (the sanctions regime) but even Switzerland (the banks). In the later decas´des one remember oil-embargoes in 70ties.
Only in a few cases the effect is isolation, more often a change of terms. If there is such a development it  may not at all be negative for most of us.
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Since the economic activities require us to interact more with each other to use the strengths of others to overcome our own weaknesses, I'd call it on the rise. You cannot stop globalization except by separating a country completely from the outer world. Even we here, are 'globalizing'.
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It's making a tactical withdrawal, it will lick its wounds and come back with a vengeance becuss the powers that be reckon it's a good idea.
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Of course its in withdraw.
But for now I shall stop using my locally-assembled American-designed Taiwanese-manufactured from Malaysian components Computer which I bought off a Chinese trader to discuss this issue with Egyptian Australians, Danes, Americans, Estonians and Scottish Iranis, and instead clean my teeth with my Chinese toothbrush before I use some Greek Olive Oil to cook breakfast made from Pakistani Atta ground from Australian wheat.
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Originally posted by Omar al Hashim Omar al Hashim wrote:

Of course its in withdraw.
But for now I shall stop using my locally-assembled American-designed Taiwanese-manufactured from Malaysian components Computer which I bought off a Chinese trader to discuss this issue with Egyptian Australians, Danes, Americans, Estonians and Scottish Iranis, and instead clean my teeth with my Chinese toothbrush before I use some Greek Olive Oil to cook breakfast made from Pakistani Atta ground from Australian wheat.
 
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nicely put Omar!
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Originally posted by Omar al Hashim Omar al Hashim wrote:

Of course its in withdraw.
But for now I shall stop using my locally-assembled American-designed Taiwanese-manufactured from Malaysian components Computer which I bought off a Chinese trader to discuss this issue with Egyptian Australians, Danes, Americans, Estonians and Scottish Iranis, and instead clean my teeth with my Chinese toothbrush before I use some Greek Olive Oil to cook breakfast made from Pakistani Atta ground from Australian wheat.


Dang! Why didn't i think of putting it that way? Clap
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Originally posted by Omar al Hashim Omar al Hashim wrote:

.......my Chinese toothbrush......
 
But not Chinese toothpaste, right Omar?Wink
 
What I really wanna know is actually where is your cell phone from?  Is it LG or Samsung?  Well, that could still be from China i guess.....  nevermind.....


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If you subscribe to the 'Big History' notion of human/cosmological event, then 'retreat' is very relative.  The idea in this perspective is that since the big bang, energy usage has increased in the cosmological components as they have become smaller and more complex. Humans are the most complex components known to date and our energy usuage by mass over time has continually gone up irrespective of cultural decline or historical factors.  Globalisation is absolutely inevitable in this wider perspective.  Any retreat would be extremely temporary.
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Thanks for all you're contributions Smile
 
My presentation is on next Thursday (it's nothing major) I've finished my preparations for it and I'll actually be quoting a few of you on the day. So appreciate all the help. But feel free to continue discussing this topic among yourselves... Big smile
 
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