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Is observing from above for the better or worse?

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    Posted: 01 Sep 2013 at 18:10
If sattellites and drones are not at the moment watching large parts of what we are doing outdoors at the moment, then at least there is the technological possibillity this can be done, I think. Perhaps even to the degree You may be observed from a distance reading this post, while You have little chance to know. Perhaps by a remote device - a drone far away or a sattelite.
If such "watching" become widespread, even by non-government agents, we may see negative consequences, but perhaps there may be potential benefits too. Not least possibillity for better information for the public about what different governments, companies, and others are doing.
On the other hand probably also more observing of "anybody", if not by fellow citizens, then by others. So, I see negative potentials as well as possitive, but tend to think the last are bigger..


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I have no problem with people observing public areas. However, when it comes to people's personal homes, it is a violation of privacy to have cameras watching.
 
This technology could be used for criminal purposes, but so can every form of technology. I think the fact that murders, theft, or other crimes can be exposed with these things will benefit society, not just because of convictions, but also because it will deter criminals from committing them in the first place.


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Originally posted by Logic Logic wrote:

I have no problem with people observing public areas. However, when it comes to people's personal homes, it is a violation of privacy to have cameras watching.
 
This technology could be used for criminal purposes, but so can every form of technology. I think the fact that murders, theft, or other crimes can be exposed with these things will benefit society, not just because of convictions, but also because it will deter criminals from committing them in the first place.
We should not forget here, that authorities and jurisdictions are limited by territory of the nation in question. So, if somebody choose to watch anybody inside that territory from outside, let us say from "outer space", I will ask what the citizens (that could be You or me) can legally do about it, even if it "violates privacy" since I can not see it. What kind of "space police" should confront such a sattellite?  Of course such methods could be used by criminals, but also by those exposing criminals, by the police and military as well as by gangsters. And it could be useful for getting information from "closed" states or parts of states, and for making "cheks" of information released by different governments and other authorities and their agencies, and of media if we are lucky.
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Lol, someone never live in a police state and unawarely wants to be in one of them...

Edited by Paradigm of Humanity - 02 Sep 2013 at 14:50
the single postmodern virtue of obsessive egalitarianism
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Originally posted by Paradigm of Humanity Paradigm of Humanity wrote:

Lol, someone never live in a police state and unawarely wants to be in one of them...
No, that was not the point.
On the contrary: I wwould prefer non-government agencies do the observing. I think when the technology is there, and the motivation and opportunity, governments or their agencies will more otr less watch us, wether we lioke it or not.
If others do it too, for business, for non-profit purposes, lor for any private reasons, those who havbe not privileged acces to government power would be on a more "equal fooring". That is not to saysome use by governments could not benefit the larger populations, like going after criminals, assisting rescuing people and disaster management. Then there is the possibillity of watching what is going on in "closed" countries in ways otherwise difficult or impossible. So I see there is a potential for assisting "police states" as well as working against them, and working against unfortunate tendencies to "closedness" in otherwise not police states.
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