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Lemba and the Ark of the Covenant

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    Posted: 12 May 2014 at 12:14
If there is something weird in Africa are the Lemba tribe, its Jewish origins, and the tradition of one Ark of the Covenant of theirs own. Please read it.

That the Lemba have Jewish origins.


On the ngoma lungundu, the Lamba's replica of the Ark


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Thanks for an interesting post.
Previously, afaik, the only Jewish group in Africa were those in Ethiopia, who were taken to Israel to live.
The customs described in the article are of ancient Hebrew origin, and are similar to the traditions of the Ethiopian Jews, reflecting a very ancient origin.
This all goes to give more credence to the Lost Tribes of Israel stories.
I would have liked to have seen the results of the scientific studies that were conducted.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote beorna Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2014 at 18:46

"...The results reported above suggest a genetic history of the Lemba that is not incompatible with their oral tradition. Clearly, there has been a Semitic genetic contribution, including, quite probably, one from Arabs, given the Lembas' presence on the eastern coast of Africa, where Arabs have settled for centuries. "

"Both Ashkenazic and Sephardic Israelites are geographically far removed from the Lemba, and, were it not for the Y-chromosome sharing between the Yemeni and Jewish populations, the occurrence of Jewish haplotypes in the Lemba population would be highly suggestive of gene flow between the two groups."

"However, given the extent of Y-chromosome sharing between the Yemeni and Jewish groups, the presence of such haplotypes because of gene flow from Arab sources cannot be discounted. Support for a Jewish contribution to the Lemba gene pool is, nevertheless, found in the presence, at high frequency in the Lemba, of the CMH (.088 of the entire population and .135 of UEP group 1); the CMH is also observed at moderate frequency in Ashkenazic Israelites (.150 and .231) and Sephardic Israelites (.100 and .161), but it was observed in only a single Yemeni (.020 and .028). Furthermore, in an unpublished study of Palestinian Arabs (A. Nebel, D. Filon, M. Faerman, A. Oppenheim, personal communication), the CMH was present at only very low frequency (<.025). The CMH has been suggested as a signature haplotype for the ancient Hebrew population, and it may be performing that function in this study. Further support for Lemba oral history comes from the Buba/CMH association. "

"However, it is possible that the Lemba CMH Y chromosomes are a consequence of a relatively recent event that, in Lemba oral tradition, has acquired a patina of antiquity."
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