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    Posted: 14 May 2011 at 19:36
Just an observation.

Taking in the architecture, the stark contrast of architecture in London, there are too many new/newish buildings with placards on them reading, "Here stood ____ destroyed during The Great fire of London/bombing during the Second World War) which leaves me wondering.  Berlin would be another city devoid of its natural character because of WW2.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gcle2003 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2011 at 19:49
When I first went to Ireland, c. 1980, I was struck by how much Dublin reminded me of what I remembered of England pre-1939.
 
So if you want to see what an English provincal town would have looked like with no war, look at Dublin (not so sure about London, and mybe it's changed wsince 1980.)
 
The thing is most of Britain's towns, including especially mine, had whol areas devastated by bombing that had to be rebuilt, whereas Dublin didn't-
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I've not been to Dublin actually, but that might make it worth the visit.  Edinburgh was unscathed too, but the architecture there is mostly Victorian and Georgian; the Old Town was built upon post plague and it is, besides, innately different given the extensive use of masonry as opposed to synthesised materials (which considering the geology of Scotland made it cheaper there).

Prague's medieval architecture is amazing.


Edited by Zagros - 14 May 2011 at 20:57
"There was glory in pissing, Corabb decided as he watched the stream curve out and make that familiar but unique sound as it hit the ground." So true.
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Dresden was supposedly really nice before WWII.
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Now, Europe was rebuild after WWII, so many "ancient" buildings are probably reconstructions which are partially or fully modern. In any case, Europe still has a large patrimony of ancient buildings, some of which are a thousand years old and even older; which is amazing for me.

But there isn't necessary a war to destroy the historical past. In my country, for example, you hardly find buildings more than 100 years old. Many beautiful buildings were destroyed simply to make space for "progress" (which means to cover the city with appartment buildings). For instance, some stupid planifier decided to demolish this building! And it is gone. Confused Yes, for you guys in Europe this building maybe quite ordinary, but here was unique.

 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gcle2003 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2011 at 11:19
Originally posted by Zagros Zagros wrote:

I've not been to Dublin actually, but that might make it worth the visit. 
Don't forget the Abbey Theatre while you're there.
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Ninety churches were destroyed, including St. Paul's Cathedral, in the Great Fire of London.      
With the participation of such architects as Sir Christopher Wren and Nicholas Hawksmoor, St. Paul's and many other churches were rebuilt.     
If the fire in 1666 had not occurred, these churches may not have been rebuilt.
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You would find that a great deal of housing would be substandard tiday and redeveloped. Something like that happened in my hometown. An area (coincidentially known as 'Little London') was bulldozed to make way for modern housing. Some of the buildings elsewhere in my area that date from around the time my home was built in the towns expansionist railway heyday have been pulled down too. The old market place, the canal wharf, individual shops - gone. Even the historic Mechanics Institute remains a sad abandoned place.
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Years ago, in his book on the coming of the Millennium, J.G. Ballard talked about going back to China and finding the grade school he had gone to, before he was interred in a Japanese Internment Camp.  He said that Communism was a great respecter of old buildings, re-tasking them instead of tearing them down, and building something new.  Of course, that may not be true with today's post-Deng Cheo Ping fusion of capitalism and communism.  But it is an interesting thought, maybe Prague was saved from highhanded remodeling by being part of the Warsaw Pact.

European Art Museums tend to not be as secure as American Museums, because Americans build the building for the task (and security is a big part of that), whereas Europeans often retask old historic buildings and have to retrofit them with security systems.  I imagine that that means that the European museums have their quirks, which can be taken advantage of by enterprising burglars.  Of course, some people would argue that that just is not true, but what one should remember is that not every museum is top of the line, although when we think of European Museums, that is what we think of.  Not the mass of smaller institutions.
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