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    Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 01:46
Malcolm X has been one of the few Americans that has decribed its country in such a crude and clear way. First, a taste of Malcom X... Feel free to agree or reject it, your choice. I like his entusiasm, though Wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zBg_VN2T0c&feature=related

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Hes one of those people that I hate a lot but still think highly of at the same time. I dislike him cause he helped build the nation of islam in the 60s, but he reformed and changed his ways. I don't like how much black people celebrate him as some hero in our country. It really was people like MLK who changed America. Malcolm X would have led the world down more racial division if he was the top voice in the black movement of that era. All he would have done is radicalize black people more and more and white people would look and be like these black people are "muslims and rebelling". It'd have been a catastrophe. In the end though he reformed and his group killed him and he never was the "Top voice" of the black community. Hes interesting none the less and has emotion in his voice but I hate everything that comes out of his mouth. 


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Why do you hate the Nation of Islam? Because the myth of Yakub?

From the exterior, I admire the courage of Malcolm X. He made a mystake, though. Once you enter a sect, like the Nation of Islam, it is very difficult to get out peacefully.
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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

Why do you hate the Nation of Islam? Because the myth of Yakub?

From the exterior, I admire the courage of Malcolm X. He made a mystake, though. Once you enter a sect, like the Nation of Islam, it is very difficult to get out peacefully.

I actually hate the nation of islam so much that if I was president of the US. I personally would do everything in my power to make them be labeled a terrorist and criminal organization. Their values albeit good for black people are horrible for the image I see of America. I do not see them as Americans. Especially since they rag so much on white people. They are obviously racist against white people like the KKK against blacks except the Nation of Islam only has a small track record and thats called the "Zebra murders" in which black people drove around killing whites like a lynching. They are criminals, scum and should be arrested.

You possibly could not understand the depth of hatred I hold for Farrakhan. The guy donates money to Robert Mugabe and hangs out with him. Hes such a horrible person. The nation of islam is such a ridiculous group. ITs not a reflection of black values. MLK was a good leader; he preached equality. Not "Its time to get back at the white man". Thats all Malcolm X was for years until he "converted" and then he was shot quickly after. By the Nation of Islam mind you.

He was a controversial figure of his time and still is today. A glorified image of him because of his "conversion" is stupid. The whole picture needs to be taken in. Here he is Malcolm X; prophet?, Racist? Criminal? Savior of Black people? american hero? Hes just some racist guy whos gotten a good wrap cause tons of black people held this same view in the 1960s. They hated whites, disliked Jews for their obvious cultural differences. They wanted the "power" they didn't want equal rights. Malcolm may have changed but he still was a racist dirt bag his whole life.


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They say White People is evil, genetically. Interesting concept.

(In any case, don't confuse it with the distrust Latinos have for the U.S. In our case, our distrust is with your government, because historical reasons, but we don't hate Gringos (common White People) at all. In fact, one of the things we like is to make gringos to dance...Wink)


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Right and I say they are stupid retarded racist black assholes who should be arrested. farrakhan is a criminal, elijah muhammad was a criminal who killed Wallace Muhammad. Like Wallace "suddenly" went missing.


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Why aren't they?
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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

Why aren't they?

I don't know what you mean.
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Why aren't they arrested?
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Why aren't they arrested?

Cause they supposedly "have rights". I'm saying they should be arrested.
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Originally posted by Joe Joe wrote:

Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

Why aren't they arrested?

Cause they supposedly "have rights". I'm saying they should be arrested.


Yes, they have rights and freedom of speech and to believe as they wish no matter how ridiculously misguided or vulgar they are. Heck, we put up with the likes of Fred Phelps and his ridiculous band of unmerry misfits, why not others?

Anyways, don't you mean that for a lack of proof, none can be accused for any crime committed and held for an unjust amount of time. Habeas corpus exists for citizens and for the very reason as for what you advocate for.
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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

Malcolm X has been one of the few Americans that has decribed its country in such a crude and clear way. First, a taste of Malcom X... Feel free to agree or reject it, your choice. I like his entusiasm, though Wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zBg_VN2T0c&feature=related

Let's talk about him.

 
 

Good Thread pinguin.  I don't know if there ever was a thread about him alone in the Archive but I know there is one here.  i don't know too much about him either in spite of I live very close to his birth place.  

anyway i thought starting with speech from a Spike Lee's movie is bit unfair, not anything against the movie or Spike Lee, but i thought I would add a real speech.

I believe this is one of his famous speeches.

Malcolm X - Ballot or Bullet


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRNciryImqg  

it's a long one 53 mins.  I haven't listened to it for long time, so i'm gonna need to listen to it again to comment on it, but I do remember it as a powerful speech.
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Unlike the majority of posters here, I have actually read the biography of Malcolm X. There are two Malcolm X's. The pre-Hajj firebrand, who speeches sounded like the youtube clip, and the post-Hajj Malcolm X, who had met and mingled with White Muslims while on his pilgrimage. That Malcolm X had changed. I admired him for having reformed himself and living the life he actually preached. I.e., upright and God-fearing. Unlike MLK, he was not gunned down while leaving for a good time on the town that included women.


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Cool input, lirelou, especially your admiration for him living the life he preached part.  Even in that Ballot or Bullet speech, he showed enough anger and blaming but also another one of his main driving point is self-respect/self-sufficiency(hmm or is it the Juche in me?Tongue).
 
I have a friend White American who has a bit of racist view not too terrible but let's just say he's not too fond of African Americans and Arab Muslims in general.  He seems to be fine with Asians and Hispanics.  I've seen him making some typical Jewish jokes in the past but I don't think he has any particular problems with Jewish people either.  Oh yeah and he seems to be fine with African immigrants too.  His point of view was that he has no problem with hard working legal immigrants. And he didn't like Muslims because obviously he bought into that Western civilization vs Islamic barbarism narrative that so readily available in media.  But other than that he's a great guy and he doesn't usually act out on these views, just comfortable enough with me that we can talk about it once in a while. 
 
So one day I asked him, 'what about the African American Muslims, like the Nation of Islam?'  I was thinking well if he doesn't like African Americans and Muslims, then he must absolutely despise the Nation of Islam..   But to my great surprise that he has no problem with Nation of Islam other than few hate speeches like Farrakhan.  His reasoning was that there are so many Blacks that are uneducated, unemployed with criminal tendencies and the Nation of Islam walks around with nice suits and ties, albeit a bow tie (I can sooo picture drgonzaga supporting one himself actuallyWink) not baggy pants down to the knees and tilted hat with bling bling, and educate people, find them jobs and teach them discipline and such, especially to Black men.  Still there are unfair generalization of African Americans in his reasoning but in spite of that there is a tangible rationale behind his racism toward African Americans; that it is not based on skins colors(as legal African immigrants as opposite example), but what he perceived as general tendencies of African Americans which was uneducated, unemployed with criminal tendencies.  oh yeah and I forgot to mention  that he also believes that main reason behind it is because they are lazy.    So he would be just as turned off by a White person who is uneducated, unemployed, criminal, lazy and can't even dress properly. 
 
Other than his crude generalization of the African Americans, there are some undeniable logic behind his reasonings.  In the end yes, such reasoning could be simplified into, Blacks are lazy, so they deserve everything they get(or don't) and such reasoning should be criticized.  However it also shows the American appreciation for hard working self -made man which embodies the founding spirit(ideology? frontier spirit?).  An English musician I listen to lot once said comparing England and America that in the Old World (England), you find your place in the society, in the New World(America), you make your place in the society.  Living in America for about half of my life I find that statement to be very true also.   And if you can look beyond some hate speeches or name calling or blame games rhetorics, that is also what Malcolm X was preaching, even Farrakhan?.
 
EDIT:  oh yeah i forgot to mention that Malcolm X was born in Omaha, Nebraska not in Michigan.  But his parents lived here before he was born and as in his speech that he went to school in Michigan.


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Did I hear a shoe drop? Or was my name invoked in passing...oh well, it must be time to strap on my bag of bolts and head up to the mountain top for an exercise period involving some hurling.
 
The life of Malcolm X is worth studying because it encapsulates the transformation of a man from the peculiarities of insularism to a more humane consmopoitanism still honest with respect to human emotion. Call it the journey from bitterness to reason in spirit.
 
He was a man of his times and one can not take umbrage at his bitterness because it arises from a fundamental reaction to betrayal within the context of American idealism and political realities that worked against it. Some months back I received a review copy of a book that in many ways echo the principal threads behind the rhetoric of Malcolm X--
 
Lawence Goldstone. Inherently Unequal: The Betrayal of Equal Rights by the Supreme Court, 1865-1903. New York: Walker & Co., 2011.
 
--the bluntness of that tome would not have found a publisher in 1959.
 
For the curious here is a timeline on Malcom X:
 
 
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PS to Kang: Poor little me does not look upon bling and droopy trousers as a "Black" thing--for goodness sakes look around you--but as little more than a generational costume guaranteed to antagonize us elders. Good lord, it's been some 30 years! Look around today for Luther Campbell, Tracy Marrow, and Will Smith! Kids just love to "act out" and for such you have to have a costume.


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Originally posted by drgonzaga drgonzaga wrote:

 
 
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PS to Kang: Poor little me does not look upon bling and droopy trousers as a "Black" thing--for goodness sakes look around you--but as little more than a generational costume guaranteed to antagonize us elders. Good lord, it's been some 30 years! Look around today for Luther Campbell, Tracy Marrow, and Will Smith! Kids just love to "act out" and for such you have to have a costume.
 
someone explained to me what the baggy pants were about.   it's that when you go to jail they take your shoes and belts and other things that people could use to harm others or themselves.   so when they get released, they often walk out with no belt on holding all their belongs in a bag.   so the pants falling down meant you just walked out jail and you are tough outlaw or something.  from there the pants just got baggier and baggier and it fell down lower and lower.  but i had to ask, wouldn't it be a disadvantage  running from the cops?   especially if baggy pants represents illegal activity?
 
p.s. i wasn't thinking of you when i made that comment though although i might have borrowed some some words used by you in some other thread, but i was using it as more of rather common generalization .
 
p.p.s.    i mentioned your name as i can see you wearing a bow tie which was a just friendly joke.   but i had many run on sentences in that paragraph that is could be read as I was tying you up with that generalization of baggy pants and bling bling as your generalization.  if that was the case, i apolosize, doc!


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What fascinates me is the myth of Yakub, the BlacK scientist.
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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

What fascinates me is the myth of Yakub, the BlacK scientist.
 
That old thread you began oh so long ago is locked and for very good reasons, Penguin, so do not try an end run to reopen that jabberwocky. Respect the tenor of the good word myth and do not confuse it for historical hucksterism even within the near-contemporary.
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Zoot suit c. 1942. Armani look on and cry.
 
Actually worn by Italian Americans, African Americans, just plaiin American Americans and all kinds of riff-raff, despite being made illegal for the sake of the war effort.
 
The wikipedia article on zoot suits is off its head in saying it had any connection with the Teddy boy costumes of c.1950 Britain. As a follower of fashion at the time I wouldn't have been seen dead in anything that looked in the least unstructured. <gasps at very thought of it>
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Originally posted by drgonzaga drgonzaga wrote:

Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

What fascinates me is the myth of Yakub, the BlacK scientist.
 
That old thread you began oh so long ago is locked and for very good reasons, Penguin, so do not try an end run to reopen that jabberwocky. Respect the tenor of the good word myth and do not confuse it for historical hucksterism even within the near-contemporary.


What matters is that Malcolm X, Mohammed Ali and other famous leaders were influenced by these ideas.
Well, this is part of the doctrine of NOI:

Yakub

    This article covers the figure in the theology of the black nationalist organization Nation of Islam. The name, also spelled Yaqub or Yakob, also applies to the mainstream (traditional) Islamic view of the Biblical Jacob. See Islamic view of Jacob for information on the latter.

According to the Nation of Islam (NOI), Yakub (also spelled Yacub or Yakob), was an evil scientist responsible for creating the white race — a race of devils, in their view. Yakub created white people by a process of grafting the "black germ" to a "white germ" from the original black population of the world. It took 600 years for Yakub and his successors to fully whiten his creations. This was achieved under a despotic regime on the island of Patmos. The reasons for Yakub's actions are unclear. According to NOI doctrine, his progeny were destined to rule for 6,000 years before the original black peoples of the world regained dominance, a process that began in 1914.

The doctrine of Yakub was first proclaimed by Wallace Fard Muhammad and was later developed by his successor Elijah Muhammad


By the way, Elijah Muhammad was the man that named Mohammed Ali.
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Zoot suit c. 1942. Armani look on and cry.
 
Actually worn by Italian Americans, African Americans, just plain American Americans and all kinds of riff-raff, despite being made illegal for the sake of the war effort.
 
The wikipedia article on zoot suits is off its head in saying it had any connection with the Teddy boy costumes of c.1950 Britain. As a follower of fashion at the time I wouldn't have been seen dead in anything that looked in the least unstructured. <gasps at very thought of it>
 
 
Wow I found it!   Uncle G and Dr G,...... G2 Tour 2011!!!!!!!Tongue
 
thanks for the Italian connection.  i should have connected with all those Italian mob movies and even Dick Tracy or some of the movies about Harlem gangsters and such.   Now I can even see that among ethnic minorities there is a desire to assimilated in the majority culture but also opposite desire to look different and stand out on purpose; as a form of pride or protest depends on the person's political or religious views, or just plain social and economical conditions that has nothing to do with being in organized crime or being suspected of outlaw.
 
One of the example would be Jamaicans who look different because of their dreaded hair which is tied to their religion.   Although many Jamaican in the West  do live in  more crime ridden lower class ghettos and such, but people would associate with their hair to criminal tendencies much less then baggy pants falling down and bling bling.
 
even more stark contrast would be,..... this is gonna sound like really bad joke literally;....if a Catholic priest, a Rabbi, a Buddhist monk, an Imam, and add any other religion I missed, are walking down the street with their traditional attires.  Who is most likely to give someone an first impression that he might be a criminal if that subject ever came up like something was stolen or worse something blew up near by? 
what is interesting to me is that even with some atheistic secular view of Western society, we still reserve certain amount of respect for any religious leaders and don't usually associate them criminal elements except when it comes to Muslims.   It's like somehow they are the only ones who doesn't even deserve this universal unspoken reverence of the religious people in the society when fact is almost all religion had a rebellious history of being suspected outlaws in one time or another, whether by another religion or secular gov't policies or or a btime of war and conflicts. 
 
I guess many rant was about another sweeping generalizations (as usual) about clothes and appearances in relation  to self respect and identity and how others react to that because of certain historical or political climate preconditioned.     
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Originally posted by gcle2003 gcle2003 wrote:

Zoot suit c. 1942. Armani look on and cry.
 
Actually worn by Italian Americans, African Americans, just plain American Americans and all kinds of riff-raff, despite being made illegal for the sake of the war effort.
 
The wikipedia article on zoot suits is off its head in saying it had any connection with the Teddy boy costumes of c.1950 Britain. As a follower of fashion at the time I wouldn't have been seen dead in anything that looked in the least unstructured. <gasps at very thought of it>
 
 
Wow I found it!   Uncle G and Dr G,...... G2 Tour 2011!!!!!!!Tongue
 
thanks for the Italian connection.  i should have connected with all those Italian mob movies and even Dick Tracy or some of the movies about Harlem gangsters and such. 


No self-respecting Italian from Milan and Rome would submit themselves to that disgrace known as American counter culture and its wears. For Heaven's sake! That is an abomination. If we could only capture the Italian fashion vanguard every once in a while we would all dress smarter for it. But that picture...I still can't get over that horrendous gansta look.


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Not the same as Italians from New Jersey. And now I'm in trouble with my daughter-in-law's brother-in-law.Ouch
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It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing...
 
 
That is the late, great Cab Calloway in full splendor at the birth of the Great Bands Era. Naturally, such was an exaggeration of the "established style of padded shoulder , loose fitting coat and high waisted baggy trousers (as popularized by no less a figure than the Prince of Wales later to become the Duke of Windsor); nevertheless, it's origins were in the world of High Fashion of the 1930s "cut" to fit the "cool" of that time. In a way they were passe by the time of the Zoot Suit Riots of  1943 that targeted the youth known as pachucos. Nevertheless, I do not agree with the rationalizations given by Wikipedia that tries to obscure the racist roots of military conscripts under the guise of "patriotic fervor":
 
With the entry of the United States into the war in December 1941, the nation had to come to terms with the restrictions of rationing and the prospects of conscription. In March 1942, the War Production Board's first rationing act had a direct effect on the manufacture of suits and all clothing containing wool. In an attempt to institute a 26% cut-back in the use of fabrics. the War Production Board drew up regulations for the wartime manufacture of what Esquire magazine called, "streamlined suits by Uncle Sam."[16] The regulations effectively forbade the manufacture of zoot-suits and most legitimate tailoring companies ceased to manufacture or advertise any suits that fell outside the War Production Board's guide lines. However, the demand for zoot-suits did not decline and a network of bootleg tailors based in Los Angeles and New York continued to manufacture the garments. Thus the polarization between servicemen and pachucos was immediately visible: the chino shirt and battledress were evidently uniforms of patriotism, whereas wearing a zoot-suit was a deliberate and public way of flouting the regulations of rationing. The zoot-suit was a moral and social scandal in the eyes of the authorities, not simply because it was associated with petty crime and violence, but because it openly snubbed the laws of rationing. In the fragile harmony of wartime society, the zoot-suiters were, according to Octavio Paz, "a symbol of love and joy or of horror and loathing, an embodiment of liberty, of disorder, of the forbidden."
 
The question to ask when presented with such sophistry: Who was to know at exactly what date the "suit" was actually tailored?  
 


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Seko, the Italian "fashion vanguard"...good lord you've revealed yourself a metrosexual! I'll stick to Jermyn Street and establishments such as Hilditch & Key, Russel & Hodge, and if I'm bunburying Hawes & Curtis!Big smile
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Originally posted by lirelou lirelou wrote:

Unlike the majority of posters here, I have actually read the biography of Malcolm X. There are two Malcolm X's. The pre-Hajj firebrand, who speeches sounded like the youtube clip, and the post-Hajj Malcolm X, who had met and mingled with White Muslims while on his pilgrimage. That Malcolm X had changed. I admired him for having reformed himself and living the life he actually preached. I.e., upright and God-fearing. Unlike MLK, he was not gunned down while leaving for a good time on the town that included women.




I hadn't read his book, but just form the documentaries i have seen, i had noticed the shift in his actions as well as in the tone of his speech and commentary with the press. Regarding his assassination, i often wonder what might have been, if it had not taken place or if he had survived it? Indeed, i think the US is the poorer for it, that he died in the midst of a change in his life and so young at that.
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It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing...


Gasp.... As hard as it has always been for me to get rid of songs in my head, i find this the most cruel, that which you had so unintentionally done upon me - ARRRGH!
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Originally posted by drgonzaga drgonzaga wrote:

Seko, the Italian "fashion vanguard"...good lord you've revealed yourself a metrosexual! I'll stick to Jermyn Street and establishments such as Hilditch & Key, Russel & Hodge, and if I'm bunburying Hawes & Curtis!Big smile


Indeed. We all have our moments. Though these days I only tend to seriously hit Nordstroms et al during clearance sales.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 01:14
Originally posted by Panther Panther wrote:

Originally posted by drgonzaga drgonzaga wrote:

It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing...


Gasp.... As hard as it has always been for me to get rid of songs in my head, i find this the most cruel, that which you had so unintentionally done upon me - ARRRGH!
 
I agree whole heartedly!  I just love Cab, and most of the "big bands" of that era!  There exists a "radio-lawyer" star, who starts his programme with just such, but I cannot find the exact song that he uses.  Does any one know?
 
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Originally posted by opuslola opuslola wrote:

Originally posted by Panther Panther wrote:

Originally posted by drgonzaga drgonzaga wrote:

It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing...


Gasp.... As hard as it has always been for me to get rid of songs in my head, i find this the most cruel, that which you had so unintentionally done upon me - ARRRGH!
 
I agree whole heartedly!  I just love Cab, and most of the "big bands" of that era!  There exists a "radio-lawyer" star, who starts his programme with just such, but I cannot find the exact song that he uses.  Does any one know?
 
Regards,
 
Ron


you three and Uncle G and Seko......Tongue

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