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Mohawk Ironworkers: People that build New York

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Thank you. Actually, i have thought of opening one about Comanches at some point.
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That would be interesting.
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Your sarcastic and negative response to this topic indicates that you think discussing it all is some sort of exercise in political correctness.  If you think it is a small and trivial aspect of history, just say so - it's ok.  My grandfather and his 8 brothers were Mohawk high steel workers back in the 1920's and 1930's, so I have a high level interest in the topic.  I fully understand that the vast majority of people find it much less interesting and that is fine.  I get it.  However, you make the assumption that the author is launching an attack on established Eurocentric history.  Why?  You come off as hypersensitive and the stereotypical Angry White Man.  Lay off the Glenn Beck and balance things out.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Northman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jan 2012 at 23:32
Wolfclan - please notice this discussion is a year old, but I'm sure there are members who, as I would, would like to hear what you can tell about your ancestors. 
However, I don't see the negativeness you mention in the former posts, so please feel free to continue the subject or start a new thread yourself if you want a different topic.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by wolfclan wolfclan wrote:

Your sarcastic and negative response to this topic indicates that you think discussing it all is some sort of exercise in political correctness.  If you think it is a small and trivial aspect of history, just say so - it's ok.  My grandfather and his 8 brothers were Mohawk high steel workers back in the 1920's and 1930's, so I have a high level interest in the topic.  I fully understand that the vast majority of people find it much less interesting and that is fine.  I get it.  However, you make the assumption that the author is launching an attack on established Eurocentric history.  Why?  You come off as hypersensitive and the stereotypical Angry White Man.  Lay off the Glenn Beck and balance things out.



Dear friend, I feel a deepest admiration for the North American native peoples, particularly from the Iroquois, and Mohawks in particular.
I agree with you that many Europeans and Euro-descendants in the U.S. always downplay Amerindians people. For instance, the guy with the more acid commentary about the Mohawks in here is a Spanish living in the U.S., I believe because the had more opportunities in that country than in the former poor Spain. But, anyways, he feel with the right to downplay the Amerindian cultures of that country. Besides, he likes to deny any non-European influence in the Americas and in Spain, so he also denies Arab, Jewish and Moorish influeces in that country Confused

In my case, it is not the first time I deffend the influence of the Amerindians in the formation of the U.S., in its customs, symbols, blood, ideas and even in the U.S. constitution. But here you always will find Eurocentric characters that want to deny everything, in orden there is not a shadow on the "legacy" of Holly Europe.

It is not me, anyways, who is a Latin American, and that considers Amerindians as relatives. I oppened this thread to honor the Mohawks and you saw how it was torpedo by some fanatics. Sorry about it.








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Pinguin,
Thank you for the the post.  This topic is close to me.  As I mentioned before, my grandfather and his 8 brothers were high steel workers in the 20's and 30's.  They all worked on the Empire State building, the Chrysler building and the George Washington bridge.  One of his brothers was killed on the GW bridge and he decided to leave that line of work, because he had a wife and child (my mother).  He went back to Tyendinaga reserve (Ontario) and opened a store.  He extended too much credit to people on the rez and wasn't very successful - haha.  Also, he was part of the official lighting of the Empire State building and threw the switch on lights as he ran up 4 floors.  He was offered a doorman job there too, but didn't want it.  I know very little about his brothers other than they all died young for various reasons I've never heard. 
I have an uncle that went into this work in the 60's and 70's, but not anymore.  I for one would not be able to do this work, so I call myself a bad Mohawk!  I think the fear is there for Mohawks they just control it and have trust in their gang.  The reason they do it is the same reason anyone would - the money was good!  I don't believe any Mohawk man has felt like an expendable person.  On the contrary, Mohawk families are very proud of this work and have felt respected for it for generations.  Thanks again for your post.  I agree this is an important part of my people's history and an interesting footnote for others interested in American history.
 
Northman,
I am new to this site and meant to address the post on the 1st page by Panther, but made a mistake.  I realize there may a history between them that I'm unaware of and not really interested in.  Panther's post just seemed overly sensitive and negative about a post and topic that seemed quite innocuous. 
 
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Northman,
Thanks for taking the time to address my post!
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Thanks Wolfclan.
Now that you are here, you could open threads on the topics you know the best. In particular, I am very interested in the Amerindian traditions of North America. By the way, long time ago I lived in Canada where I had several Cree friends, from whom I learn quite a bit of the real North American past.
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Good afternoon,

I'm looking for that BW photo of the Mohawk Skywalkers for a publication.

Any resources you know of?

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