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Topic - Was Jesus an Essene?
Posted: 02 Feb 2018 at 13:56 By toyomotor
Franciscosan
Quote toyomotor,
Not everyone embraces miracles for me anything is possible, I do believe in miracles & we are talking about belief not facts.
These ideas about Jesus are meant to be argued and beliefs do evolve. The evidence proves that the gospels are authentic works from the time period, archaeology etc.

1. Believing something doesn't make it so.

2. The Bible was compiled some 300 years after the death of Jesus. True, there are documents which speak to the actuality of events recorded, but Hans Christian Anderson also wrote stories too. I would agree with you that some of the information contained in the New Testament could have a basis in fact, but not all of it.

Quote Personally I like exploring idea that the crucifixion was a literary event and that Jesus was a historical figure forged into a legend because he was enlightened.

3. You mean like the Mahatma Bhudda?

Quote I don't think we can prove Jesus lived in the same way historians prove facts about ancient history, clearly that has not stopped the persistence of the idea of Jesus. This is an example of how Jesus' life story is still evolving.

4. Of course you can't prove that he ever existed, or that his deeds were performed as recorded. I could go along with the fact that he wasn't dead when removed from the cross, was taken to the cave and attended to, and then spirited away by supporters. That is if he ever existed. If his life story is still evolving, what's left to reveal, that he was an interstellar traveller? I like the idea that he, his wife Mary (Magdalene) and their family moved to Southern France where they either founded or became part of the Merovingian family. Prove that it didn't happen!!!

Quote Outside of the New Testament canon, we have only one more extensive narrative of Jesus' suffering and death, and that has appeared in the Gospel of Peter. Now it was known in ancient times that there was such a thing as the Gospel of Peter. Eusebius of Caesarea, the earliest church historian at the beginning of the 4th century, tells about the fact that there was a Gospel of Peter which was used by some communities in Syria.But no one really knew what was in this gospel until at the end of the last century papyrus was discovered, which was a small amulet that a soldier had been wearing around his neck and which was given into the tomb of this soldier, and when it was opened up it turned out to be a text that told the story of the suffering and death and resurrection of Jesus. But it is told in such a way that one can assume that it was not dependent upon the canonical gospels that we have. But that at least part of this gospel goes back to the same story, but draws from the oral tradition of the telling of that story

Nor throughout history was there any mention of Jesus' brother, James (The Just)-what other siblings did he have, I've forgotten. And why was the fact of James' existence kept from us for nearly 2000 years? What else has been kept from us?

 
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fransicosan, agree, the non canonical writings are more important than the church's version of events.
Jesus would not have necessarily belonged to any sect but then how could he become educated?
I agree if he was involved in a sect it would have been the Essenes because they were healers.

So, now if in those days you were educated at all, you must have belonged to a sect? Is that what you're saying?

And what level of education did he achieve?

But once again you've managed to drag us away from the OP.

The question was, "Was Jesus and Essene?"

There's no proof either way.

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