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    Posted: 23 Nov 2017 at 00:20
IMO, the most overtly patriotic country in the western world must be the USA.

Americans are a proud race, whose achievements have led the world. Students are taught the Pleddge of Allegiance at a very early age, and, I believe, it instills in them a sense of national pride.

Quote "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

It therefore comes as a bit of a surprise to learn that many Americans refuse to recite the pledge, and openly reject it's value.

I wish that we had a Pledge of Allegiance in Australia.


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Thailand gets uptight about the king, and India requires people to stand for the national anthem at movies.  What is it that is attractive about an anthem?  Loyalty is admirable, when it is deserved, but at the same time the US allows flag burning, the Under God clause is controversial amongst atheists and agnostics (and polytheists).  The US is a mass of contradictions, paradoxes (and perhaps that is a good thing).  But again, what is attractive about an anthem to you?  Just curious, you need not say.
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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

Thailand gets uptight about the king, and India requires people to stand for the national anthem at movies.  What is it that is attractive about an anthem?  Loyalty is admirable, when it is deserved, but at the same time the US allows flag burning, the Under God clause is controversial amongst atheists and agnostics (and polytheists).  The US is a mass of contradictions, paradoxes (and perhaps that is a good thing).  But again, what is attractive about an anthem to you?  Just curious, you need not say.

Being of the older generation, I was taught to sing the National Anthem (at the time it was God Save the Queen) daily. If we went to the movies, all stood when the anthem was played. In those days, burning our flag would have been tountamount to treason, and the offender/s would have been dealt with quickly by members of the public. Bush justice.

I note that the Pledge of Allegiance doesn't mention which God, or Gods, and of course athiests could always leave that part out.

Singing the National Anthem, and standing when it was played (with hats off) gave us, imho, a sense of pride in our country and our heritage. It certainly did no harm.

Having an Armed Services background also, I believe that the above also taught a measure of respect.
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