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    Posted: 12 Jul 2020 at 00:18
King Khufu “2589-2566 BC“, whose name means Khunum protects me, was known as Cheops to the Greeks.

Also known by his Greek name, Cheops, the Egyptian pharaoh Khufu was the second pharaoh of the Fourth Dynasty, famous for building the Great Pyramid at Giza.

Khufu's full name was Khnum-Khufwy, which means '[the god] Khnum protect me'. He was the son of Sneferu and Queen Hetepheres I, and is believed to have had three wives. He is famous for building the Great Pyramid at Giza, one of the seven wonders of the world, but apart from this, we know very little about him. His only surviving statue is, ironically, the smallest piece of Egyptian royal sculpture ever discovered: a 7.5 cm (3 inch) high ivory statue found at Abydos.

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The post and linked article were interesting Ali.


Khufu/Cheops matches Jacob in the bible.

(Khnum-)Khufu's name means "(Khnum) protect me"
Jacob(-el)'s name means "(may El) protect"
(El & Khnum are similar creator gods.)

Both names Khufwey & Jacob/Yakov are similar, both cob/khuf, except the Egyptian seems to transpose the ja- to the end (the hieroglyphs are not necessarily read correctly).

Jacob had 4 wives, but 1 died before he came to Egypt so he had 3 living wives.
Khufu had 4 wives (2 named wives/queens & 2 unknown wives/queens), or 3 wives (3 satellite pyramids believed to be his of queens).

Jacob lived 17 years in Egypt.
Khufu/Cheops highest reign year is 17 in contemporary records.

Jacob dwelt in Goshen/Kessan.
Khufu/Cheops was in Giza/Gizeh/Er-gesher.

Khufu was not the son of Sneferu. Sneferu is only considered to be "most possibly his father" ("We believe that Khufu was the son of Sneferu").
Jacob was son of Isaac.

Jacob had 12 (+ 2) sons (from 2 wives & 2 concubines).
Khufu had a "rather large family", "had 12 children from four different wives". He had between 6 to 9 to 15 sons/children comparing different sources. 9 sons in one list.

Khufu is associated with Dedi who rode in a vehicle and was 110 years old.
Jacob is associated with Joseph who rode in a chariot and was 110 years old.

(See more details here https://iwillnotbeassimilated.blogspot.com/2019/06/jacob-khufu-part-2.html .)

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What does it mean "is associated with..."?

Who is Dedi?

The vision of Jacob's "ladder" is usually interpreted to be of a ziggurat.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote truthsetsfree Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jul 2020 at 20:02
Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

What does it mean "is associated with..."?

Who is Dedi?


Dedi or Djedi is one of the magicians in the Tales of the Magicians (Westcar Papyrus). He appears before Khufu in the story. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedi

Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:


The vision of Jacob's "ladder" is usually interpreted to be of a ziggurat.


There might be a connection with the Great Pyramid (Khufu/Cheops = Jacob) and/or the step pyramid (Joseph was in Egypt at that time).

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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

What does it mean "is associated with..."?

Who is Dedi?

The vision of Jacob's "ladder" is usually interpreted to be of a ziggurat.

To make the discussion deviate even further towards abnormal, I'd add that "Dedi" in Turkish means "He/She said" LOL




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Khufu's wives: Meritites, Henutsen, Rekhetre, Noubet, Nefertkau.

Khufu's sons: Kawab/Kaub, Djedefra, Khafre, Djedefhor, Banefre, Baufra? Babaef/Khnumbaef, Khufukhaf/Kaefkhufu, Minkhaf, Horbaef.

King's sons: Hemiunu/Hemon, Wepemnefert, Kamaha. (Ref https://mathstat.slu.edu/~bart/egyptianhtml/kings%20and%20Queens/dynasty4.html , Khufu section of table.)

Khufu's children: Nefermaat? Khentetenka, Nefertkaou, Kanefer, Akhkhaf.

Khufu's daughters: Nefertiabet, Hetepheres, Meresankh, Meritites, Khamerernebty?

Khufu is said to have 4 wives. So I am not sure why there are 5 wife names between different sources?
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Originally posted by truthsetsfree truthsetsfree wrote:



Khufu is said to have 4 wives. So I am not sure why there are 5 wife names between different sources?

A concubine is unlikely to be counted as wife, right? Smile
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One of the wife's and one of the daughter's names are the same.  I don't claim to know about family distinctions that might occur for a Egyptian pharaoh.  Of course, some might have more than one name.  You would really have to deal with the original material, and know the history and the meanings of the names in order to decipher it.

I am curious about the Jacob speculation.  Also wonder what is in the Islamic tradition.
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