Polish-Persian similarities

I was reading the wiki article about Polish language and saw some close similarity with Persian language. for sure many of us are aware of Indo-European similarities, but this one seems a little bit more so I said I will share it with you guys.
     Polish - English - Persian - Iranic

• Ja jestem – I am - Man hastam - A hastem
  
• Ty jestes – You are (familiar singular) - To hasty
  
• On/ona/ono jest – He/she/it is -Ou/Oun hast -
  
• My jestesmy – We are - Ma hastim
  
• Wy jestescie – You are (plural) - Shoma hastid
  
• Oni/one sa – They are (masculine/feminine) - Anha/ Ona hastand
  

Edited by Suren - 27 Jun 2010 at 22:26

Body parts

 

Persian                             swedish                                        english

Lab                                   lep                                                lip

Bosse                                pussa                                              kiss

Abroo                                ogonbrun                                    eyebrow

Kale                                   skalle                                            skull

Dandan                               tand                                              dent

Chane                                  hache                                          chin

Naf                                      navel                                             belly button

 

Objects

 Dar                                     dorr                                                  door

Hasar                                   hus                                                 house

Tagh                                    tak                                                    roof

Gaw                                     ko                                                     cow

Band (nakh)                      band(rep)                                                

Goraz                                gris                                                    porc boar

Ghaz                                  gås(goas)                                                    goose

 Nam                                 namn                                                 name

Mard(mand)                      man                                                    man 

Baradar                               bror                                                   brother

Dokhtar                             dotter                                                 daughter

Pedar                                 fader                                                   father

Madar                                moder                                                 mother

Astar (asb)                         häst                                                     horse

Stabl                                   stall                                                     stable

Famil                                  familj                                                  family

Rah                                      väg                                                     road

Rast                                      rätt                                                     right

Mah                                      mån(moan)                                           moon

Setare                                   stjärna                                               star

Div                                       djävul                                                devel

Behatr                                  bättre                                                 better

Tandar(raad)                       åska(dunder)                                     thunder

Pari                                      älv                                                     fairy

Robah                                 räv                                                      fox

Bordan                               bära                                                    bearing

Mess(metal)                     messing  (copper alloy)                          copper

Ahan                                järn                                                       iron

Moosh                             mus                                                       mouse

Mian                               mellan                                                   between

Mor(morche)                  myra                                                      ant

Gerd(jerd)  (settelement)   gård  (goaard)                                     yard

 

Man                                    mig(may)                                               me

Greftan                               gripa                                                    to grip

 ostan                               stad                                                     city(latin)

 istadan                            stanna                                                 standing   

e-man                                min                                                       mine                                                                   

 it is only one page of the simmilarity i found  between persian and swedish and english. there are much more and every time i hear some thing odd it sounds familliar.

 

Edited by kalhor - 19 Jan 2010 at 19:11

I'd be more surprised if there weren't any similarities.

kalhor wrote: which ones means something else . would you mention?. missspeling is i agree with you

Edited by Styrbiorn - 19 Jan 2010 at 09:25

kalhor wrote: styrbjörn strangely  the simmilarity between persian and french  or italian or spanish(latin languages) is much much less. i have read french and find very few words which means the same thing ?!

Edited by Styrbiorn - 19 Jan 2010 at 09:57

calvo wrote: Aren't Slavic langauges on the whole more related to iranic languages than to other branches of indo-european languages?

If you are referring to the Germanic lang an Iranic sub group thread then yes. Joking aside, Persian have more similarity with Slavic, and with Germanic lang in some extend or at least I find it that way. Greek and Latin has more similarity with Armenian lang. 

Edited by Suren - 27 Jun 2010 at 22:31

greek isn't in the latin group. it is it's own group. they have similarities like any two IE languages, but are as different as farsi/persian and german.

the norman rule over england didn't have as much influence on the language as the later study of latin in english schools, because the english speakers as a rule didn't learn french, and the normans didn't want to learn english. french was the language of the courts and aristocracy i.e. norman rulers. some people did learn the other language but not many and usually only enough of it to give and receive direction. later, the english speaking aristocracy learned french and that did have some effect on the english language.

it may be harder to find cognates in french for the purposes of this thread because french is a mixture of the latin, the germanic frankish language, and possibly bits of the celtic gallic language.

kalhor wrote: this determination sounds a bit more geografical to me, because i have hard to find so much  simillarity between greek(latin group) and persian. the latin influence in english is maybe due to (french)normand occupation of england of course it is just my own  observation. no doubt there is a deep relation between slavic and germanic languages and slavic -persian too.

Edited by Styrbiorn - 22 Jan 2010 at 15:47

Styrbiorn wrote: kalhor wrote: this determination sounds a bit more geografical to me, because i have hard to find so much  simillarity between greek(latin group) and persian. the latin influence in english is maybe due to (french)normand occupation of england of course it is just my own  observation. no doubt there is a deep relation between slavic and germanic languages and slavic -persian too. It wasn't geographical - geography wasn't taken into the study at all. The investigation (search for Hans Holm) considered changes in words, phonetics and grammar, and traced them backwards in time. That's the only practical possibility to determine when languages split from each other. The method is of course not so simple as it sounds, since you need to determine whether changes could have happened independently etc. I haven't seen any more comprehensive studies than that. I'll see if I can find a link, though I doubt it'd be open access.

I thought jende was whore and the swedes would pronounce the j like y not like English J.

The numbers - Persian for 6 is sheesh not sheh.

Yes its weird when these threads crop up again.

Javing said that though, J and Y (as the pronunciation goes) are interchanged between English and other Germanic languages.  Not really sure of the reason for this.

So Joseph is Yoseph.  John is Yohan.  And this change came across from the transferance of the names from Semitic languages to Greek, then Roman then Germanic.

I think also that if you wish to compare similarities, modern Persian is not really that good for grammar and sentence structuring purposes because it is greatly simplified from its Pahlavi forebear and that also from Old Persian.  For example a lot of sounds have been lost from words and the positioning of words in sentences has changed.

For example demonym extensions have been simplified to a simple I as opposed to IC/IG and words such as AND have become O/U instead of UHD/OHD.

Also you cannot neglect semtiic and caucasian influences on Persian which have roots as old as the beginings of IE civilisation on the Iranian plateau and thereafter the affect of the Islamic Sharia law system which is in Arabic and therefore extensively penetrated into the common language as Latin has in English.  Such penetration is lacking from the rural dialects and languages commonly used by peasants of the countries.


Edited by Zagros - 17 May 2012 at 13:37