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    Posted: 01 Nov 2011 at 08:05
Hello everyone;

Been a little away from the academic scene and working in the business world takes its toll on your intellectual stimulation for sure, I have been reading a bit more into that late Roman period. Wanted to see if anyone had more sources, and of course discussion to do about that particular period and region. 

That time period from 400AD to about 600AD has a lot of history in it, and my area of focus for the most part was a little later than that while doing my history dissertation / and a lot more East. 
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Originally posted by es_bih es_bih wrote:

Hello everyone;

Been a little away from the academic scene and working in the business world takes its toll on your intellectual stimulation for sure, I have been reading a bit more into that late Roman period. Wanted to see if anyone had more sources, and of course discussion to do about that particular period and region. 

That time period from 400AD to about 600AD has a lot of history in it, and my area of focus for the most part was a little later than that while doing my history dissertation / and a lot more East. 
 
The breakdown of urban life in Roman Gaul subsequent to the Frankish migration in the North and the Visigothic hegemony in the South is an interesting period specially in the 5th century with the conversion of Clovis to Catholic Christianity and Arian hegemony of the Visigoths. Hence, any inquiry into this period must juxtapose this rivalry and the strange episode known as the Syagrius Affair and the "Kingdom" of Soissons.
 
As for sources...why not begin with Gregory of Tours?
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I have read some, actually wanted to see if there were any modern history books specializing in the period and area. Most of the comprehensive don't offer too many pages since they encompass all of the middle ages etc.
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Well es-bih outside the near-contemporary sources, including a cautious reading of Gregory of Tours, there is a recent compendium that deals with the problematics of the source material:
 
 
John Drinkwater and Hugh Elton, eds. Fifth Century Gaul: A Crisis of Identity. London: Cambridge University Press, 1992. 
 
It is now in paperback and at 398 pages should give you enough food for further study. All of the individual essays are of high quality...


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Thank you sir! Appreciate the help.
 
 
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The Origins of France: Clovis to the Capetians, 500–1000James, Edward (1982) London: Macmillan, 1982

I read it a number of years ago but might be a little broad for what your after.


"Clovis: How Barbaric, How Pagan? Daly, William M. (1994) 
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Interesting thing about Gaul was that it was held by Romano-Gallic people until Clovis came and conquered, it was called the Kingdom of Soissons I believe.
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Originally posted by SPQR SPQR wrote:

Interesting thing about Gaul was that it was held by Romano-Gallic people until Clovis came and conquered, it was called the Kingdom of Soissons I believe.
The "Kingdom of Soissons" is a name used by modern historians.
Syagrius was the "chief" of the north-west part of the Gaul and was called Rex Romanorum by Gregory of Tours. He was the only one to use Rex to qualify Syagrius, and never used "Kingdom of Soissons". The only reason why it was later named such is because Syagrius had his residency in Soissons.
So Syagrius was he really Rex and what was is territory ? In fact we know very little about it, even if many maps show an hypothetic Kingdom of Soissons covering north and north-west of the Gaul.
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in the alt history section I making a story off of this..
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