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Evidence, please. It could be interesting to see those elder forms of architecture you mention above.
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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

Easter Island system was invented by natives themselves, but they had the inspiration seen westerners writing, and repeating the writing aloud. The idea they captured was to record words with marks; not the alphabetic system at all.


http://www.rongorongo.org/

I don't about which writing your talking about but the link above talks about undeciphered writing found in Easter Island

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With respect to rulers, it is not necesarily to elaborate much complex theories. If a person of Zimbabwe took a ride to the Horn at ancient time, it could perfectly brough the idea. In any case, perhaps the trigger was simply the comments of outsiders about buildings made in stone.


I understand what you mean,but if your saying that a Shona tribesman just took a trip to a foreign land and  observed the stonework buildings of another civilization which gave him the  idea to build  in stone structure  is very unlikely. Because for one they were stone structure settlements before Zimbabwe and for another reason it takes more just to look at something to build it.
 

Unfortunately,there hasn't been enough excavating on these sites but the ruins have been discovered .

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ht/07/sfe/ht07sfe.htm

http://www.afrol.com/articles/10428




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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

Evidence, please. It could be interesting to see those elder forms of architecture you mention above.
 
You can start by checking the books of Peter Garlake, he has written a lot about Great Zimbabwe itself and its precursors. He also has a lot of references in his books if you want to study these questions further. In one of his books he describes the stone architecture and its assciation with natural boulders and formations. In earlier structures the buildings incorporate natural boulders to a higher degree and later on the stone buildings become more artificial, ie they become mor free standing and larger. He sees a development here that mirrors the social development and stratification in these areas.
 
Then you can also scan your university library after journals that have articles about the architecture of southern Africa.


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Originally posted by AksumVanguard AksumVanguard wrote:

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I don't about which writing your talking about but the link above talks about undeciphered writing found in Easter Island
 
Exactly. i am talking about those "speaking woods". There is any evidence of writing in Easter Island before the ealiest contact with the Spanish. At that time, the Spanish legalists as usual, formally took posetion of the island and read the decree aloud before the natives, which very quite impressed by people reading.

Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:


I understand what you mean,but if your saying that a Shona tribesman just took a trip to a foreign land and  observed the stonework buildings of another civilization which gave him the  idea to build  in stone structure  is very unlikely. Because for one they were stone structure settlements before Zimbabwe and for another reason it takes more just to look at something to build it.
 
Perhaps the Lemba brought the idea. After all, they claim ascendency from the Ancient Jews, and they also claim a participation on the development of Zimbabwe. Curiously, there is a solid genetic link from the Lemba and the Ancient Jews Confused
But I agree with you. The archaeology of Africa is the most underdeveloped worldwide. there is a lot of work there that still has to be done. These enigmas reall helo to fire the interest on the topic, so I expect there will be a lot of more understanding in the future. Let's keep an open mind.
 

 
 

Unfortunately,there hasn't been enough excavating on these sites but the ruins have been discovered .

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ht/07/sfe/ht07sfe.htm

http://www.afrol.com/articles/10428


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