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Topic: Some American heroes attitude towards amerindians
Posted By: Carcharodon
Subject: Some American heroes attitude towards amerindians
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2012 at 18:21

Some of Americas "heroes", politicians, leaders and authors, had a ghastly attitude towards native Americans. Here are some exampels from a site that adresses this subject:

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George Washington...
In 1779, George Washington instructed Major General John Sullivan to attack Iroquois people. Washington stated, "lay waste all the settlements around...that the country may not be merely overrun, but destroyed". In the course of the carnage and annihilation of Indian people, Washington also instructed his general not "listen to any overture of peace before the total ruin of their settlements is effected". (Stannard, David E. AMERICAN HOLOCAUST. New York: Oxford University Press, 1992. pp. 118-121.)

In 1783, Washington's anti-Indian sentiments were apparent in his comparisons of Indians with wolves: "Both being beast of prey, tho' they differ in shape", he said. George Washington's policies of extermination were realized in his troops behaviors following a defeat. Troops would skin the bodies of Iroquois "from the hips downward to make boot tops or leggings". Indians who survived the attacks later re-named the nation's first president as "Town Destroyer". Approximately 28 of 30 Seneca towns had been destroyed within a five year period. (Ibid)

Thomas Jefferson...
In 1807, Thomas Jefferson instructed his War Department that, should any Indians resist against America stealing Indian lands, the Indian resistance must be met with "the hatchet". Jefferson continued, "And...if ever we are constrained to lift the hatchet against any tribe, " he wrote, "we will never lay it down till that tribe is exterminated, or is driven beyond the Mississippi." Jefferson, the slave owner, continued, "in war, they will kill some of us; we shall destroy all of them". (Ibid)

In 1812, Jefferson said that American was obliged to push the backward Indians "with the beasts of the forests into the Stony Mountains". One year later Jefferson continued anti-Indian statements by adding that America must "pursue [the Indians] to extermination, or drive them to new seats beyond our reach". (Ibid)

Abraham Lincoln...

In 1862, President Abraham Lincoln ordered the execution, by hanging, of 38 Dakota Sioux prisoners in Mankato, Minnesota. Most of those executed were holy men or political leaders of their camps. None of them were responsible for committing the crimes they were accused of. Coined as the Largest Mass Execution in U.S. History. (Brown, Dee. BURY MY HEART AT WOUNDED KNEE. New York: Holt, Rinehart, Winston, 1970. pp. 59-61)

Theodore Roosevelt...
The fourth face you see on that "Stony Mountain" is America's first twentieth century president, alleged American hero, and Nobel peace prize recipient, Theodore Roosevelt. This Indian fighter firmly grasped the notion of Manifest Destiny saying that America's extermination of the Indians and thefts our their lands "was ultimately beneficial as it was inevitable". Roosevelt once said, "I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe nine out of ten are, and I shouldn't like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth". (Stannard, Op.Cit.)

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I can add the author to the popular book “The Wizard of OZ", L. Frank Baum who propagated for the extermination of the Sioux people.

Quote During the period surrounding the 1890 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Dance" rel="nofollow - - Wounded Knee Massacre , Baum wrote two editorials about Native Americans for the Aberdeen Saturday Pioneer which have provoked great controversy in recent times because of his suggestion that the safety of White settlers depended on the "extermination" of the remaining Indians.

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Posted By: pinguin
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 14:14
Baum? What would you expect from a theosophist? Remember those idiots, and Blavatsky, inspired the Nazis as well. Suspect of any religion that mention races in theirs scriptures.


Posted By: SPQR
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2012 at 08:59
From Che Guevara's diary

On July 17, 1952, age 24, in his personal diary, Che Guevara wrote[1]: "The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have conserved their racial purity by a lack of affinity with washing The Portugese.... the black is indolent and fanciful, he spends his money on frivolity and drink; the European comes from a tradition of working and saving which follows him to this corner of America and drives him to get
ahead."

“The first person we hit on was the mayor, someone called Cohen; we had heard a lot about him, that he was Jewish as far as money was concerned but a good sort.”

"We're going to do for blacks exactly what blacks did for the revolution. By which I mean: nothing." -Che Guevera


source : The motorcycle diaries by Che Guevara

races

and a statue...

A Latino American hero's attitude toward other races

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Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.

- Albert Einstein


Posted By: pinguin
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2012 at 14:33
Nonsense.

Blacks are not Amerindians, and Latin Americans know very well the difference among both races. (only communists and the KKK confuse them). In fact, blacks are genetically closer to Europeans than to Amerindians. Europeans are just Alvin blacks. And both Africans and Europeans are alien people in the New World.

And the Che was shot simply because his European communist ideology has nothing to do with the Amerindian comunitary thinking of the Bolivian peasant.

 




Posted By: lirelou
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2012 at 07:42
Ah yes, another thoroughly researched and nuanced Penguin piece. T.R. Roosevelt was an "Indian fighter"? That is news indeed. Didn't know they had any Indians on that hill in Cuba, the only time that T.R. was ever wore his country's uniform.

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Posted By: pinguin
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2012 at 10:36
Who said that? Sweet Teddy was an imperialist, a representative of manifest destiny. Fortunately his immunological system was weak.


Posted By: toyomotor
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 20:17
They were simply products of their time.

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From where the sun now stands, I will fight no more forever.(Chief Joseph)


Posted By: pinguin
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2014 at 02:27
That's reasonable, I guess. Evil, war and genocide was in fashion, particularly before the invention of  the atomic bomb.


Posted By: toyomotor
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2014 at 12:46
Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

That's reasonable, I guess. Evil, war and genocide was in fashion, particularly before the invention of  the atomic bomb.
 
 
 
 
Yes, now we can smile as our enemies are obliterated from the face of the earth, no face off here.


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From where the sun now stands, I will fight no more forever.(Chief Joseph)



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