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Who's Ifrika Vermaxine ???

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Topic: Who's Ifrika Vermaxine ???
Posted By: Feh Paiva
Subject: Who's Ifrika Vermaxine ???
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2018 at 15:36
DeadHello everyone


I have read about Vermaxine 'character in one of the books, I think he was born in 1000 BC in a région called Saida , 
I tried to search the North African and Algerian sources Confused, but there is no information !!!! DeadDead

Thiis is an excerpt from the book


 
Do you have any information about Ifri Vermaxine' personality? Shocked
its very interesting !!

I m Waiting for ur replies my dears ..

Have a Nice Day ! Beer





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Posted By: franciscosan
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2018 at 03:36
I tend to think the name is fictional, of French origin, like the passage you quote.  However, I cannot read French and so I cannot get any more details to check on.  It sounds like he is attributed to Algeria, in North Africa, 1000 BC.  I would wonder what historical source would refer to back then.  Written sources do not survive from that region and that time.  So the question how the transmission of such a story and name would occur, is itself a problem.

I am not saying you are wrong, I am just saying I got nothing.  Figure out what you know about him (her), and study what you can.  Is the name plausible for someone at that time, (onomastics is the science of names), or is it not?


Posted By: toyomotor
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2018 at 08:53
The first part says that Vermaxine was a Berber person.

There are also words meaning North Africa and Phoenician, a language that became extinct in about the 5th Century..

Ifrika could possibly be African.

You really need someone who can read and speak French.


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It's not that I was born in Ireland,
It's the Ireland that was born in me.


Posted By: Vanuatu
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2018 at 16:08
DeadDead


Originally posted by Feh Paiva Feh Paiva wrote:

DeadHello everyone


<pre ="tw--text="" tw-ta="" tw-text-small"="" -placeholder="Traduction" id="tw-target-text" style="text-align: left; height: 168px;" -fulltext="" dir="ltr"><span lang="en">I have read about Vermaxine 'character in one of the books, I think he was born in 1000 BC in a région called Saida ,
I tried to search the North African and Algerian sources Confused, but there is no information !!!! DeadDead

Thiis is an excerpt from the book


 
Do you have any information about Ifri Vermaxine' personality? Shocked
its very interesting !!

I m Waiting for ur replies my dears ..

Have a Nice Day ! Beer


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The root of all desires is the one desire: to come home, to be at peace. -Jean Klein


Posted By: franciscosan
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2018 at 03:50
no name calling, Vanuatu!  Please....
He may hope that we have access to sources that he doesn't,
or maybe he want to generate hype for such a character.
I am not confident that such a character ever existed,
but if he did, coming from 1000 BC, he would be pretty obscure.

But, if you knew someone who knew onomastics, they could 
probably tell you if the name is one of ancient or modern construction.



Posted By: toyomotor
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2018 at 04:05
"son histoire"  = it's history
 "connu que par" = known by
 "un passage racontee" = part of a story???
 "par Hoplitus" = by Hoplitus
 " sans orietem mans" = in Oriental ....???\
 " lu la perfide" = read the perfidious...

So, very basically, we have a reference to a Berber man called Vermaxine who lived in the time before the Phoenicians.

I would not have thought that Vermaxine was a Berber name, it sounds more early Germanic to me.

Any other thoughts?

That's about as far as I can take it.


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It's not that I was born in Ireland,
It's the Ireland that was born in me.


Posted By: toyomotor
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2018 at 04:14
Feh Paiva

I note that you have searched a number of other sites for this information.

What is the name of the book that you refer to?


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It's not that I was born in Ireland,
It's the Ireland that was born in me.


Posted By: Vanuatu
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 03:18
Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

"son histoire"  = it's history
 "connu que par" = known by
 "un passage racontee" = part of a story???
 "par Hoplitus" = by Hoplitus
 " sans orietem mans" = in Oriental ....???\
 " lu la perfide" = read the perfidious...

So, very basically, we have a reference to a Berber man called Vermaxine who lived in the time before the Phoenicians.

I would not have thought that Vermaxine was a Berber name, it sounds more early Germanic to me.

Any other thoughts?

That's about as far as I can take it.
I found a few things. Does it make any more sense?

 "Sans" means without
un passage racontee- a story told
Orientum-
  1. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#genitive_case" rel="nofollow - genitive   https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#gender" rel="nofollow - masculine   https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#plural_number" rel="nofollow - plural  of  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/oriens#Latin" rel="nofollow - oriens
  2. oriēns mfn (genitive  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/orientis#Latin" rel="nofollow - orientis );  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Latin_third_declension" rel="nofollow - third declension

    1. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rising" rel="nofollow - rising
    2. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/appearing" rel="nofollow - appearing
    3. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/originating" rel="nofollow - originating
  3. French translation of '-man'



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The root of all desires is the one desire: to come home, to be at peace. -Jean Klein



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