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    Posted: 24 Nov 2019 at 12:38
Archaeologists have estimated that the pyramid tombs of the ancients probably took about one hundred thousand workers about twenty years to build.

King Tut An Khamun died at the age of about 19years, if the above is true, then the pyramids could have not been finished before the death of the various Pharoahs, even if work commenced on the day that they were born.

  1. Could it be that the construction of pyramids was an ongoing public works, with individual embellishments added later?
  2. We have yet to resolve the question of the technology involved in their construction with stone cut perfectly and moved more that 80 miles from quarry to building site.
The questions don't stop with Egypt, they also apply to, for example, the ancients cities of South America, etc.
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Herodotus said the Great Pyramid of Cheops/Khufu took 20 years to build. Other pyramids are not so great.
Some pyramids like Meydum one are supposed to have been started by one king and finished by another, like the Meydum pyramid is supposed to have been Huni's and finished by Sneferu.
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The second video mentions copper tools found that can cut the limestone, when an abrasive like sand or powdered rock are used with copper blades. These methods are still being used today in India by traditional builders. 

How were the blocks raised to the top of the 489ft Great Pyramid? An architect develops a theory about a snaking internal ramp that's been hidden inside the pyramid for 4500 years. ➡ Subscribe: http://bit.ly/NatGeoSubscribe






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Tutankhamen was buried in the Valley of the Kings, no pyramid involved, I think.  His site was long concealed because of the rubble of another tomb in front of the entrance of Tut's tomb.

There was an article (which I never read) in Scientific American (or Science magazine), about the organizational requirements it would have taken to build the great Pyramids.  I seem to remember that they had to get workers in from the boonies, doing so gave local leaders (for the various remote regions) power, and that destabilized the whole Pharonic system.
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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

Tutankhamen was buried in the Valley of the Kings, no pyramid involved, I think.  His site was long concealed because of the rubble of another tomb in front of the entrance of Tut's tomb.

There was an article (which I never read) in Scientific American (or Science magazine), about the organizational requirements it would have taken to build the great Pyramids.  I seem to remember that they had to get workers in from the boonies, doing so gave local leaders (for the various remote regions) power, and that destabilized the whole Pharaonic system.

Yes, I think you're right, he was buried in the Valley of The Kings, but the theory still exists.

From the records that are available, it seems that the pyramids took decades to build, and mostly were unfinished by the time that the pharaoh died.

Again you're right, from what I've read it seems that every able man from miles around were conscripted for the work force. Then you have the years of decorating the tombs.

Similarly, the discovery of buildings carved from "living rock" indicate that many years of work took place, again using many labourers.


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You are mummifying the body, it can wait until the tomb is finished.  Stick it in a dry store room, and continue the construction until it is done.  We have the contents of the tomb of a minor pharaoh, which was broken into, but not fully pillaged, just a quick theft.  What would a major pharaonic tomb look like, (unpillaged that is)?

I think the workmanship of the artifacts of the Tutankhamen tomb is amazing. But at the same time when one has artistic traditions going back eons, with a constant refinement, well amazing things are possible.  
We don't have the inherited tradition, son trained in family trade, we have to 're-invent the wheel" artistically in each generation.  That is okay, we like new wheels, whereas the Egyptians did the same thing, over and over, refining it. 
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Terence McKenna, DMT traveler, said that he saw little elves on DMT trips. The elves told him to "do this" as they say it, the elves are pulling gadgets and gears from their pockets, pulling switches and pressing buttons. Chanting elves saying "doo this."  He emphasizes the "doo" part so it may not matter what you do only that it's something.

When creativity and power meet it could mean pyramids. If the pharaoh wants to be reincarnated like the Sun God -Ra then he has to be in the light when Ra is reincarnated at every sunrise. 

Definitely taking the wide view of the cosmos and seeing themselves playing a part in it, alchemy may take over where pharaohs leave off in pursuit of higher states of existence.
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I suggest you make a pyramid and see what happens.  I mean seriously.  If you make a pyramid, that means the creativity and power have met.  Build a pyramid, and see how you feel.
btw, did you know that the pyramid is one of the "perfect shapes" (4 sided, including bottom).

to doo is to be,
to be is to do,
do be do be do.

The Egyptians did not have much imagination, think about, they mummified because they thought the "next" life was going to be a continuation.  In fact, I am not sure they thought there was a "next" life as such.  They had a very complex cosmology/theology, but their literature (stories) is pretty plain.  Not much in "secular" literature.
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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

I suggest you make a pyramid and see what happens.  I mean seriously.  If you make a pyramid, that means the creativity and power have met.
I say the pyramid is a pinnacle of creativity for the time.

 
Quote Build a pyramid, and see how you feel.
btw, did you know that the pyramid is one of the "perfect shapes" (4 sided, including bottom).

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The Egyptians did not have much imagination, think about, they mummified because they thought the "next" life was going to be a continuation.  In fact, I am not sure they thought there was a "next" life as such.  They had a very complex cosmology/theology, but their literature (stories) is pretty plain.  Not much in "secular" literature.
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I bet the workers had great stories but yes the myths are all about creation out of the water. That is more impressive to me then the cosmology. After all they determined the source of life and Darwin found a similar explanation. Egypt did observe Pleiades, seven stars for seven goddesses.
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The Greeks observed the Pleiades, you can read it in Hesiod's Works and Days.

In Egyptian myth, the sky is female, and the Earth is male.  Of course, it hardly ever rained in Egypt.
In Greek myth, the sky is male, and the Earth is female.

Babylonian mythos starts with the destruction of Apsu and Tiamat.  I think Apsu was fresh water, and Tiamat was salt water.

Think about it, how would your stories be if you thought that the (after)life was merely a continuation of this life?  The Egyptian stories that I have read are not much.  Of course, I haven't read that much, could be something.  But, the biggest question for the imagination is 'what is after life?'
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