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Russian fans welcome to this thread. We are trying to see how many of our members are interested to learn Russian here. One of our Mods (Sarmat) has accepted to help us if we have some fan here, so please come and say something if you like to learn Russian. We can learn it together here.Wink

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I am in. My Russian skills certainly need some kind of polishing. Even though I watch and understand Russian news or movies without of problem, but when it comes to speaking or constructing sentences on my own - I am lost Cry .
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Originally posted by Suren Suren wrote:

Russian fans welcome to this thread. We are trying to see how many of our members are interested to learn Russian here. One of our Mods (Sarmat) has accepted to help us if we have some fan here, so please come and say something if you like to learn Russian. We can learn it together here.Wink

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What "Spryezdum v Russiyu" means, dear Suren?
 
Did you mean "S priezdom v Rassiu" "С приездом в Россию"  Something like: (Greetings/Welcome) on you coming to Russia?
 
If yes, I would recommend to better say something like: "Добро пожаловать в Россию!" "Dobro pazhalavat v Rassiu" ! - Welcome to Russia
 
I would like to note that I give the right phontetic pronouncation in my Latin letters' transliterations of the Russian words. So, "Россию" should be directly transliterated as Rossiu, but it's actually pronounced as Rassiu. So, I think it's better to give you the right pronouncation, rather than direct transliteration.


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Ok !
 
I believe that we should first start with the Cyrillic alphabet. Contrary, to what many believe, it's the easiest and quite logical part of Russian language.
 
Note that by learning Cyrillic, you'll be able to read not only Russian and many other Slavic languages but also many Turkic and Finno-Ugrian languages, Mongolian, etc., even one of the Sinitic dialects called Dungan (that is also considered a separate dialect by some). Wink
 
Cyrillic alphabet has a more than a millenium history and was created by a Byzantine monks Cyril and Methodius of a mixed Byzantinne-Slavic origins. 
 
Cyril was buried in Rome and two brothers are considered "apostoles of Slavs" and venerated as saints both in Catholic and Orthodox Christian churches.
 
Here is a great tool for learning Russian Cyrillic alphabet:
 


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Originally posted by Sarmat Sarmat wrote:

Originally posted by Suren Suren wrote:

Russian fans welcome to this thread. We are trying to see how many of our members are interested to learn Russian here. One of our Mods (Sarmat) has accepted to help us if we have some fan here, so please come and say something if you like to learn Russian. We can learn it together here.Wink

Spryezdum v Russiyu.Wink
 
What "Spryezdum v Russiyu" means, dear Suren?
 
Did you mean "S priezdom v Rassiu" "С приездом в Россию"  Something like: (Greetings/Welcome) on you coming to Russia?
 
If yes, I would recommend to better say something like: "Добро пожаловать в Россию!" "Dobro pazhalavat v Rassiu" ! - Welcome to Russia
 
I would like to note that I give the right phontetic pronouncation in my Latin letters' transliterations of the Russian words. So, "Россию" should be directly transliterated as Rossiu, but it's actually pronounced as Rassiu. So, I think it's better to give you the right pronouncation, rather than direct transliteration.
Yes, It supposed to mean "Welcome to Russia", and I am aware of Dobro Pazhalavat. This o sound is really tricky sometimes sounds like O and sometimes like Aw.



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In closed syllables, this "o" is usually pronunced as "a" in Russian.
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by closed syllables, do you mean a syllable with consanants at both ends?

is there also a good place to learn more grammar? especially noun and adjective declensions?
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Originally posted by Sarmat Sarmat wrote:

In closed syllables, this "o" is usually pronunced as "a" in Russian.
Speciba, Sarmat! Even Speciba can be read as Specibo.

Sarmat do you know what Sogdiana sing in this song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UdA0w5hy1Q



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It's pronounced as "Spasiba" written as "Спасибо"
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Originally posted by gruvawn gruvawn wrote:

by closed syllables, do you mean a syllable with consanants at both ends?
 
Yes, that's what I mean.

Originally posted by gruvawn gruvawn wrote:

is there also a good place to learn more grammar? especially noun and adjective declensions?
 
I'll do some research and post it in the future.
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I found this site with Pronunciation.
http://www.waytorussia.net/WhatIsRussia/Russian.html



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Originally posted by Suren Suren wrote:


Sarmat do you know what Sogdiana sing in this song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UdA0w5hy1Q
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The name of the song translates as "Clouds have flown away."  It's about love. Basically she sings that here beloved is her everything and is asking him to find a way to here heart.


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I like this video of Sogdiana:
 
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Originally posted by Sarmat Sarmat wrote:

I like this video of Sogdiana:
 
Heard that song at least 20 timesSmile. I've heard her parents are Ukrainian, but she can sing in Uzbeki as well.




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here are e-books, russian is just below where this page starts,  but there's some of practically every language.

 http://www.e-book.com.au/freebooks.htm#5

they have pushkin, tolstoy, doestoyevsky; yipee! if i sound out the names i can figure out which are which, but i have practically no vocabulary other than names. that's how i'm learning the sounds of the alphabet. i've been doing that for a week or two using a russian for chess players book.
spassky, petrosian, tal, botvinnik, karpov, etc.
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Should I install some kind of software or what, because when you guys write in cyrillic - all I see is some random gibberish, like "< id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" ="">".
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I don't know what is the reason cause I also see gibberish instead of Cyrillic letters. Unhappy
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Originally posted by gruvawn gruvawn wrote:


thanks suren for suggesting this thread, and thanks sarmat for being our guide. Clap
I'm very happy to provide you with my humble assistance, guys. But I ask everybody to forgive me cause I will have a limited ability to post a lot in this thread until the end of the next month. Unhappy
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i think that cyrillic has to be enabled by AE administrators.



i copied and pasted this, but as a picture or piece of html.


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Here is some essential words which may come handy.

Spa-see-ba   -   Thank you
Pa-zhal-sta   -   Please (and you're welcome)

Da
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Niet   -   No

Zdra-stvooy-tye
  -   Hello (Formal)
Pree-vyet   -   Hi (Informal)

Kak vas za-voot
  -   What is your name?
Min-ya za-voot   -   My name is ...
Och-en pree-yat-na   -   Pleased to meet you.

Kak-dela?  -  How are things?
Khara-sho, Spaciba  -  Good, thank you
Bad  -  Plo-Kha

Da-svee-da-nee-ye
  -   Good-bye
Pa-ka   -   Bye (Informal, slang)




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Are there any good movies I could get in the russian language? Not just dubbed into russian but original. Dubbed movies can be unreliable, at least thats what I've found with spanish. Not completely wrong, but not word for word. For example, sometimes the charactors may say "Zdra-stvooy-tye   -   Hello (Formal)" but the subtitles or dub will say "Pree-vyet   -   Hi (Informal)". Plus, hearing native speakers is the best way to learn proper pronunciation, and get a feel for the rythyms and intonations.
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Originally posted by gruvawn gruvawn wrote:

Are there any good movies I could get in the russian language? Not just dubbed into russian but original.

http://listverse.com/2009/12/30/top-10-greatest-soviet-films/
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I found this website helpful. If you guys are ready it is better to start lesson on this website http://www.russianlessons.net/lessons/lesson3_main.php      

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Do you speak Russian? Vi gavarite pa Rooski? (Vi -gaavaareeteh - Pa - rooski?)  (aa = like "U" in Luck)
Yes, I speak. Yes I speak Russian. Da, Ya gavaru. Da, Ya gavaru russki. (Daa, Yaa gaavaaru rooski.)
No, I don't speak. Niet, Ya ni gavaru.

Do you Speak English? Vi gavarite pa angliski? (Vi -gaavaareeteh - Pan - Gliski?)  (aa = like "U" in Luck)
Yes, I speak. I speak English. Da, Ya gavaru. Da, Ya gavaru pa angliski.

Do you understand English? Vi - Panimaite - Pa -Angliski? (Vee - Paaneemaaeete- Pan-gliski?)
Yes, I understand. Da, ya panimae.
No, I don't understand. Niet, Ni panimae.

How do you say .... in Russian? Kak skazat Pa Russki ...?





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Isn't it gavá:rju??
just listen to it in this link. http://www.russianlessons.net/lessons/lesson3_main.php  Smile



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It should be something like "ya gavariyu"
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Originally posted by Sarmat Sarmat wrote:

It should be something like "ya gavariyu"

Yup, that's what I meant.

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How do you read "говорю " ? It is simply Gavaru.


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