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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gcle2003 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 16:34
Is it really useful to transliterate it as 'gavariu' or 'panimaitie' instead of 'govoriu' or 'ponimaitie'? Don't you lose orthographic connections at the expense of emphasising pronunciation?
 
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Originally posted by gcle2003 gcle2003 wrote:

Is it really useful to transliterate it as 'gavariu' or 'panimaitie' instead of 'govoriu' or 'ponimaitie'? Don't you lose orthographic connections at the expense of emphasising pronunciation?
 
I don't write French as Fronseh.

Agree. It's better to learn the Russian pronounciation of the letters and transcribe properly. By using English phonems you risk ending up with a horrible accent using only English sounds.
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Well. We are just starting from the very basics of the language. And if some members want to know how to pronounce certain basic Russian greetings and phrases for the start it's better to begin with "how it's pronounced." Russian orthography could be very confusing and, perhaps, it's better not the scare the people out from the very start.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gcle2003 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 21:32
Depends partly I suppose on whether you're planning to need to read/write it, or just to speak it. As far as I recall we started out learning to read it directly from the Cyrillic. (If you haven't seen a gang of military recruits fresh out of basic training poring over John and Mary stories you haven't seen anything.)
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Hey Sarmat, If you are not busy, lets revive this thread again.
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Oh, yeah, now I'm not that busy anymore. So, we can revive the thread !
 
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Originally posted by Sarmat Sarmat wrote:

Oh, yeah, now I'm not that busy anymore. So, we can revive the thread !
 
Как дела? Kak dela? (How are you?)
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Originally posted by Suren Suren wrote:

Originally posted by Sarmat Sarmat wrote:

Oh, yeah, now I'm not that busy anymore. So, we can revive the thread !
 
Как дела? Kak dela? (How are you?)
Khera sho, Spaciba.Smile
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"Khera" is actually one of the Russian bad words.
 
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Sarmat, can you suggest any online source to start our Russian lessons here. Your pronunciation is a good help for us, thank you. 
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Hmmm.. I haven't been able to provide real "pronouncation lessons" so far, but let me do some reseach to find a good online resource for that.
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Sarmat when you be ready to start the lessons?
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Well, I am tired of waiting, so I try to continue this thread.

Здравствуйте!    Zrastvooyte    Hello!     (formal)
Доброе утро.     Dobroye ootro    Good morning.    
Добрый день.     Dobry Den    Good afternoon.    
Добрый вечер.     Dobry Vecher    Good evening.    
Как поживаете?        Kak Pozhivayete?    How are you?     slightly formal
Как поживаешь?e     Kak Pozhivayesh    How are you?     informal
Прекрасно. А ты?     Prekrasno. A ty?    Fine. And you?     informal
Рад Вас видеть.     Rad vas vidyet    Nice to see you.        formal, said by male
Рада Вас видеть.     Rada vas vidyet    Nice to see you.     formal, said by female
Я тоже рад Вас видеть. Ya tauzhe rad vas vidyet.  Nice to see you too. formal, said by male
Я тоже рада Вас видеть. Ya tauzhe rada vas vidyet. Nice to see you too. formal, said by female
Что нового?     Chto Novogo?     What's new?
Как дела?     Kak dela?     How are you doing?     rather informal
Как у Вас дела?  Kak oo vas dela?    How are you doing?     formal
Спасибо, хорошо.    Spacibo, Kharasho    Fine, thank you.    
А у Вас?     A oo vas?    And you?    
Так себе.     Tak sebe    So-so.    
Как обычно.     Kak obichno    As usual.    
Неплохо.     Neplokho    Not so bad.    
Плохо.     Bad.    Plokha


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Ok. We are starting our lessons.
 
First of all, I would like you guys to learn the Rusian alphabet.
 
Please memorize how to pronounce and write Russian letters using this webpage:
 
 
Who is in?


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So, is anybody still interested in learning Russian?
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Why on earth do you need all those vowels for?
 
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Sure !
 
So any questions about the pronouncation of the letters, etc. ?
 
Should we go to the phonetic exercises?
 
I just want everybody to be on the same page.
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Go a head!
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If any native Scandinavian speaker is interested I have an excellent introduction to the Russian alphabet and phonems in pdf. It's easier to learn in ones native tongue.


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Now, everybody please practice reading and listening to the Russian syllables here:
 
 
Please let me know when each of you completes the exercises.
 
Do I understand right, that our group now includes the following gentlemen (gospod):
 
1. Gospodin Suren
2. Gospodin King John
3. Gospodin Styrbiorn
 
If you, additionally, need English translation of any Russian words there, please, use this online tool.
 
 
Just cut and paste the necessary Russian word and it will give you the English translation.


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Sarmat, I have completed the exercise and ready to move on to the next lesson.
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Отлично (otlichno-perfect), KJ !
 
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Looks like I have to discuss with our administrators the issue of visibility of Cyrillic letters. Ermm
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Sarmat are you still around? I am trying to learn Russian again.
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İa toje hachu pa ruskiy uchilsa :)  (nimnoga znayu)

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