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Would someone please have a look at the following site, and tell me it isn't similar to a South American Megalith.


On another thread, I suggested that similar buildings to those found in Mesopotamia, called Ziggurats, were to be found in South America. I don't say that they're identical, but very similar.

If we agree with that proposition, could it simply be coincidence, or could the idea have been brought to South America by a traveller, from wherever?
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I have never seen a pyramid in person, so I don't feel qualified to compare and contrast pyramids, ziggurats, Mayan Temples, Cambodian Temples.  To do it right I would have to look at them each in person.  Now I suspect that they would be similar, but so are triangles.  I do not assume that all triangles have a common source.  A pyramid is such a plain shape that I don't see a need for a common point or origin or diffusion.  If you have an octahedron, a shape that appears in fluorine crystals in nature, then burying half and having the other half stick up gives you a four sided pyramid.

Now could it be diffusion?  Maybe but I doubt it.  You would have to have travelers between the Old World and the New World _after_ the building of the pyramids, most belief for migrations to the New World are before the building of the Egyptian pyramids, the ziggurats or the Cambodian Temples.  Personally, I prefer to believe that the Cambodians and the Mayans were intelligent enough to come up with their temples on their own.  I have not seen any stories regarding genetic evidence for late contact of Old World and New World, nor any stories regarding linguistic evidence.  I seem to remember that Thor Heyerdahl in Kon-Tiki showed that it was possible for a reed boat to make it across the Atlantic, but of course, Heyerdahl knew where he was going.  Again, I _prefer_ to believe that the Cambodians and the Mayans were intelligent enough.
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Take a look at the link provided, and then have a look at a South American construction and venture an opinion on whether or not they appear to be similar. That's all I'm asking.

And they're not pyramids, they're closer to zigurats, as in Mesopotamia.

If course, one would need to be an archeologist and examine the buildings up close to compare the similarities, or otherwise.


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Well, to me, they look like pyramids, and all pyramids look alike, so yes, they look alike, just like all obtuse angles look alike.  So you have pyramids and step pyramids, one goes through a stage of building step pyramids before building (proper) pyramids.  Look up, I believe, the Pyramid of Zoser (I think that is right, Zosar??).  The (proper) pyramids are further developments which are possible because they built in stone, rather than mud brick.  Such developments were probably impossible for Mesopotamia, because of the building material of mud brick.  I believe that the 'pyramids' in Cambodia and Mesoamerica are built out of stone, so in that sense, they are more like Egypt, than they are like the ziggurats of Mesopotamia.

But, no I don't think that they have a common or derivative origin.  Just like I think Mayan writing was invented independent of the Old World.  Now writing is extraordinary enough, that I think it was only invented once in the Old World, although maybe Sumerian and Chinese were independent of each other, I'll let the experts figure out that one.  I also think that it is more wonderful that different people came up with the "same" great idea (pyramids), than everything was invented but once, and copied by _everyone_ else.
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