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    Posted: 01 Dec 2009 at 03:43
South Asia:

It is traditionally consisted of Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Maldives, Pakistan.
Sometimes included: Tibet, Myanmar, Afghanistan.

Weste Asia:

It includes: Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Israel, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Oman, and Yemen.
Sometimes included: Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Armenia.


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Everything you call East Asia, I would classify as South Asia.

For me, East Asia is China, Korea, Japan and possibly Southeast Asia also if you don't want to give them their own category.
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That was a typo mistake Constantine thanks for your notice.Smile
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I think Tibet is not usually considered South Asia, its on the wrong side of the Himaliayas.

In anycase, I think this thread may be better in multi-region forum.
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Everything Middle Eastern except Iran = West Asian.

I subscribe to South Asia as consisting of modern nations previously under Greater Bharat; parts of Iran and Afghanistan, Pakistan, modern India, Nepal, Bhutan, Bangladesh, Myanmar and Sri Lanka along with Maldives.
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Bharat linguistically divided to Irano-Afghan/Iranic region, Pakistan-North India-Central India-Nepal-Bengal/Indic region, South India/Dravidic region and Tibet-North East India-Myanmar/Sino Tibetan region.

I prefer to divide it up based on racial lines but do want me to tell you?
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Here we go again..."race"!
 
 
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Originally posted by drgonzaga drgonzaga wrote:

Here we go again..."race"!


Whoah whoah whoah what's up with the political correctness? Why should people wince or sigh when race is brought up? What's wrong with that?

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This isn't about PC palaver and all the considerations such raises, but about sincere Science. Next, you'll be measuring cranial shape as a measure of intelligence. I am neither wincing nor sighing, I am categorically proclaiming: BUNKUM!
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And how is physical anthropology not sincere science? If one can be interested in categorizing significant events occured throughout time of various human populations from different parts of the earth then why not also the physical variation of various populations of mankind themselves?
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Originally posted by Mangel_Pandey Mangel_Pandey wrote:

And how is physical anthropology not sincere science? If one can be interested in categorizing significant events occured throughout time of various human populations from different parts of the earth then why not also the physical variation of various populations of mankind themselves?
 
Simple: Physical variations within one family are extensive enough as to render generalization on even larger groups little but crass surmise. Apply it to melanin and you enter coo-coo land. Recall that it was "physical anthropology" that rendered Neanderthal little more than an "ape" and since then it has had little else to do other than correct such nonsense. Besides, no matter how much anthropologists rant about being "scientists" they are no such thing. They are simply cloaking their surmises by subverting the methodologies and technical instruments of Science.  
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Actually, Armenia is western Asia. Aswell part of Azerbaijan, but only part of it. Also don't forget part of Georgia.
 
I believe Kura river would be the boundary of Europe and West Asia. Half of Georgia and Azerbaijan are Europe and other half West Asia by that defination. Armenia is within West Asia as whole.
 
 
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Iran is regarded as South Asia by the way...
 
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Did you use Wiki trash photo to say that? go back and read more about it. Many studies and organizations has debunked that claim. For god sake Emil go back to your Hole in that Psycho white supremacist forum Stormfront. I saw your post in that crapy site. It will show your agenda so obviously.


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So how do you define Caucasus, Suren? And did you got angry about Iran?
 
I posted there long time ago agianst some Armenians. There are like hundreds of them there. And it been ages since I have even been there. Sorry but someone has to do it agianst those Armenians.
 
And its funny that you say that, it is Iranians who has such issues, like Armenians. There are like thousounds of them in such websits. For some reason. Maybe thats why you lick each other so much...
 
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I saw your post there not long ago when I was looking for Kazak Germans over the net. I am not a fan or member of that crappy site, but it really amazes me how pathetic some people are. They suck on every thing to show they are pure Aryan or whiter than others. You were talking to some Georgian folks there not Armenians, but I really appreciate that I saw you used my reasons and facts which you learned here in Azerbaijan thread from me and Zagros.  I give you a lit credit for that, this means you can learn some thing if you open your eyes to the truth and third party history facts.Wink 


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There were Armenians aswell. That was the only reason I posted there. And it has been more then half a year. There are also many Iranians who insult Azeris. So I don't know what you try to do when you try to critize me, as if I really post there or something or If I have some ideas.
 
And I don't see how my post has anything to do with such things. Sorry but I don't consider myself as Asian or something. Neither I should do. Neither European, since I m neither that. But go and learn some geographical definations.
 
 


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Emil you are  a member there since july 2007 and your post are about 1 and half month ago not six months ago. If you don't believe me take a look at this link and you will see your posts.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=555198&page=46Big smile



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Like said, it has been ages since I have been there.

And I was never an active member. I was registred for that purpose, to reply Armenians. And the last time I posted, was again against them.
 
And I don't see anything wrong with it.
 
You got thousounds of Armenians and Persians there, someone has to do it against them.
 
And if you have something to say, then bring in, if not, then stop acting like an homosexual, like you do now.


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Originally posted by Emil_Diniyev Emil_Diniyev wrote:

Like said, it has been ages since I have been there.

And I was never an active member. I was registred for that purpose, to reply Armenians. And the last time I posted, was again against them.
 
And I don't see anything wrong with it.
 
You got thousounds of Armenians and Persians there, someone has to do it against them.
 
And if you have something to say, then bring in, if not, then stop acting like an homosexual, like you do now.
Now, I am homosexual for giving you the link aha. Good to know you better. I am done talking to you. You can have your conversation with the wall.


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Originally posted by Suren Suren wrote:

Originally posted by Emil_Diniyev Emil_Diniyev wrote:

Like said, it has been ages since I have been there.

And I was never an active member. I was registred for that purpose, to reply Armenians. And the last time I posted, was again against them.
 
And I don't see anything wrong with it.
 
You got thousounds of Armenians and Persians there, someone has to do it against them.
 
And if you have something to say, then bring in, if not, then stop acting like an homosexual, like you do now.
Now, I am homosexual for giving you the link aha. Good to know you better. I am done talking to you. You can have your conversation with the wall.< id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" ="">

You act like one when you stirr the discussion away and GOD knows what you try to do.
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Oh, great! Another bout of sexist fever...complete with deliriums on sexual identity! FYI people, in Geography no one employs "Southern Asia" and much less "Western Asia"--since in English (the American version) the combinations generated all types of confusing imagery. There is Asia, and what is not China, India, and Russia has to struggle for notice. The only exception being South East Asia which is the AKA for "Indo-China"--that little bit of geo-jargon should drop a little hint as to the true value of this thread given its direction.
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"South Asian" does get used in colloquial English English to refer to immigrants from Pakistan, Bangla Desh, India, and Sri Lanka. But it's usually done in order to avoid having to say 'Pakistani' which still after 60 years sounds unnecessarily discriminatory, or 'Bangla Deshi' and 'Sri Lankan', which outside of the cricketing world sound pretentious. 
 
Looking for rationality in the usage though is more than a little optimistic.
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Originally posted by gcle2003 gcle2003 wrote:

"South Asian" does get used in colloquial English English to refer to immigrants from Pakistan, Bangla Desh, India, and Sri Lanka. But it's usually done in order to avoid having to say 'Pakistani' which still after 60 years sounds unnecessarily discriminatory, or 'Bangla Deshi' and 'Sri Lankan', which outside of the cricketing world sound pretentious. 
 
Looking for rationality in the usage though is more than a little optimistic.


Actually it is more and more, from what I see and it is is spurred from the confusion caused by the reference of 'Asian' only to East Asians by Americans.
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^ and for Aussies, we have never called south Asians- just Asians. That was only specific for <east> Asians. Normally we would simply say Indian but that really pisses off Pakistanis and Sr iLankans (understandably)  who have also come here in decent numbers."South Asian" is a nice safe 'catch all' phrase
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Originally posted by Emil_Diniyev Emil_Diniyev wrote:

Like said, it has been ages since I have been there.

And I was never an active member. I was registred for that purpose, to reply Armenians. And the last time I posted, was again against them.
 
And I don't see anything wrong with it.
 
You got thousounds of Armenians and Persians there, someone has to do it against them.
 
And if you have something to say, then bring in, if not, then stop acting like an homosexual, like you do now.
your recent posts contain some real poison in them and I wont be tolerating any more of it. One thread is already locked and there is enough in it to send you back to those other forums and now these type of childish (and bigoted) remarks

 Your on my watch list.

Consider this an unofficial warning


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Originally posted by Emil_Diniyev Emil_Diniyev wrote:

Originally posted by Suren Suren wrote:

Originally posted by Emil_Diniyev Emil_Diniyev wrote:

Like said, it has been ages since I have been there.

And I was never an active member. I was registred for that purpose, to reply Armenians. And the last time I posted, was again against them.
 
And I don't see anything wrong with it.
 
You got thousounds of Armenians and Persians there, someone has to do it against them.
 
And if you have something to say, then bring in, if not, then stop acting like an homosexual, like you do now.
Now, I am homosexual for giving you the link aha. Good to know you better. I am done talking to you. You can have your conversation with the wall.< id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" ="">

You act like one when you stirr the discussion away and GOD knows what you try to do.


And you act like a child when you call people names like that, grow up!
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