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    Posted: 20 May 2013 at 09:06
Is not the idea there ever was or is a "space age" one among a number of "modern myths"?
Though we know there has been people "in space" we should not forget how relatively few they always were, since the first Sputniks of the 1950´s. So, effectively humans still lives on earth as they always did, some of us have been a very small part of our lives on board a plane and a fraction of one in a million has ever been "astronaut". Perhaps other people know about other modern myths?
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You are receiving Internet by satellite, isn't? That's to live in the space age.
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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

You are receiving Internet by satellite, isn't? That's to live in the space age.
If for some reasons humans had to abandon sattelites we could adjust to it, given some time, I think. There could be substitutes, though probably not working as well.
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Well, satellites not only allow Internet to go global, but also carry TV and phone call. Besides, they are vital in mapping making (cartography), for geology and earth studies, and also in GPS applications. Now, for substitutes, fiber optics cables under the sea can replace satellites in the communication business, but for making map and navigation, they can't be replaced easily.
Come on, we live in the Space Age, because space is already in our daily lives. We may live without  nuclear reactors (nuclear age, for instance), but we certainly live in a Space Age.


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It seems it depends upon definition and interpretation what "space age" means. I think for a headline of a contemporary history there could be better titles than "space age".
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Certainly, but if you look around the world, you will notice by now we can't live without the space technology. And every decade will get worst.
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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

Certainly, but if you look around the world, you will notice by now we can't live without the space technology. And every decade will get worst.
So, we all drop dead if for some reason space technology don´t work? Given some time to adapt at least some of us will survive I think.
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Sure, we can survive. We can replace GPS with magnetic compasses and cell phone triangulation, for instance. We also could replace satellite communication with grounded fiber optics, for instance, and satellite pictures by high altitude airplane photography, but wouldn't be the same. It would be going back in time to another age. Besides, large part of modern knowledge in astronomy and solar system data, comes from the space age times.

Yes, it is amazing how much we depend on space now.
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Here's the thing - the official definition of "The Present" is 1950, because that's the last date at which radioactive dating is reliable, and is more or less the time when Mankind is trying to explore beyond Earths atmosphere. Some refer to human history and prehistory as the "Anthropocene" - isn't that perhaps a little arrogant? - whereas we ought to recognise that in fact the ICe Ages aren't finished - we happen to be lucky enough to living during an interglacial period and that in another fifty or sixty thoudsand years, the conditions will be right for another major glaciation. Basically then you can call periods of history whatever you want - it's all about categorisation and organising chronology into easy lumps for the convenience of the scholar/academic.

Personally I regard this as the Caldrail Age, but I suspect very few of you would be prepared to accept that :D
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Originally posted by caldrail caldrail wrote:



Personally I regard this as the Caldrail Age, but I suspect very few of you would be prepared to accept that :D

I do not certainly. It is the Goral EraLOLThumbs Up
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Talking about the 'space age', I happened to watch a documentary last night about Stephen Hawkings views on life, the universe, and everything. Most of it was what you expect - lots of clever computer graphics showing cataclysms and weird enviroments (however unlikely the imagery actually was - it's important to show something on screen, and modern audiences have come to expect full colour explosions at any and every opportunity (Americans in particular seem impossible to impress without huge scale imagery and lots of violent explosions to back the breathless and hilariously sensationalist commentary).

But that's expected. The trouble was toward the end of the program, when Hawking began to speculate on Mankind's future and relationship with science. Oh no. Here we go again... Humanocentric philosophy and messianic predictions of Human colonisation of every possible corner the universe currently holds back on.

Personally, I think Mankind has a narrow window of opportunity before our increasingly fragile survival comes up for review. I wouldn't discount the possibility of human expansion into space, but it does seem very unlikely, and in fairness Hawking did, in between the angelic choirs and images of enormous space vessels carrying hordes of saintly human beings to the promised planet, point out the problems of science, engineering, finance, and social implications of our science fiction dreams.

In short, our space age might never be what Gene Roddenberry ordained would happen. After all, most of the scientific advancements the Star Trek series postulated are already in use or in the physics laboratory. Good grief. Lock up up your grandaughters. There might one day be a lustful starship captain on the loose. I blame Hawking. Completely.

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Yes, but what if the Space Age IS a myth?

What if, as was suggested some years ago, it was from a Film Studio, and we've all been fooled all of these years?

What if the Space Age technology was pure fiction, and that communications technology, for example, was being accomplished by some other method?

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The Space age was and is real.
 
Blame the Chinese for inventing gunpowder.Smile After that all bets were off. Munitions-armaments-modern communications-lasers-nuclear weaponry-positioning sats-intell sats-internet-computers-fiber optics-medicine-military and civilian hardware; the list is endless.
 
What's interesting is the proportionality of it's expansion post 20 century versus earlier periods. That's astonishing.
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Originally posted by Arlington Arlington wrote:



The Space age was and is real.
 
Blame the Chinese for inventing gunpowder.Smile After that all bets were off. Munitions-armaments-modern communications-lasers-nuclear weaponry-positioning sats-intell sats-internet-computers-fiber optics-medicine-military and civilian hardware; the list is endless.
 
What's interesting is the proportionality of it's expansion post 20 century versus earlier periods. That's astonishing.


I agree with you, the great Arms Race is still being run, and we can only stand on the sidelines to see who'll win.
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One question is about the importance of humans and their artifacts in "space" so far. So far an extremely small proportion of humanity has ever visited "space", and that is probably not to change soon.
On the other hand I have no reason at all to doubt that any part of space programs was real, including moon landings.
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Originally posted by fantasus fantasus wrote:

One question is about the importance of humans and their artifacts in "space" so far. So far an extremely small proportion of humanity has ever visited "space", and that is probably not to change soon.
On the other hand I have no reason at all to doubt that any part of space programs was real, including moon landings.



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