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The most secret weapon of the Luftwaffe

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    Posted: 07 Nov 2015 at 20:11

I share with you a lot of pictures, some of them previously unreleased, rare and never before seen by me, referring to one of the secret weapons of the Luftwaffe. We are talking about the Horten flying wing. Perhaps, the aircraft of the Second World War the most ahead of its time than any other, went into production too late to be put into service. Do you think if he had gone into production would have changed the course of the war and history? Visit the link below and give us your opinion about it.


http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/01/a-mais-secreta-arma-da-luftwaffe.html


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Would this aeroplane change history - Nope. Not a chance. Don't believe all this hype about stealth technology either. The Horten series were developed from gliders in the thirties, designed for aerodynamic efficiency, not stealth. The only reason - and I mean the only reason - that many people now believe the 229 was a stealth fighter was because the americans built a flying wing stealth bomber not so long ago. Prior to this, nobody discussed stealth technology concerning the 229.

In any case, early jet engines were horrible peices of kit. Witness what happended with the Me262. Design had begun in 1938 with Projekt 1065 being authoridsed for prototype construction in 1940. The first airframe, the V.1, had empty jet nacelles because the turbines were not available so had to be flown with a conventional piston engine in the nose, which barely had enough power to get off the ground. Later the engines were shown to have problems with the exhaust cone, which needed constant monitoring for power efficiency, and the failures caused fires and flameouts. Even then, despite the 262 being rated as one of the best fighters to come out of WW2 (as Captain Eric Brown rated it), the engines only lasted 25 flying hours before needing replacement and because of the lack of acceleration that early jets suffered from, their bases needed protection from roving allied fighters by conventional aircraft flying patrols around them.

The stealth properties are much exaggerated in the 229. It was designed (fortuitously, not deliberately) with a configuration that masked some of the engine noise, and the low frontal area did reduce radar visibility. However, the big leading edge of the wing did not reduce radar returns at all - far from it, such a surface would light up screens everywhere because it almost guaranteed a reflection in the direction of the antenna.
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This question has niggled me because I really don't like this modern myth making. If it helps persuade the unconconvinced who prefer the myth, then consider...

The Horten brothers were two amateur deigners who started making flying wing gliders seeking aerdynamic efficiency back in 1931. Their designs all developed from that beginning. Neither of these men had any experience of radar. They were hooked up with Gotha FW when they reached the jet powered HoIX design (the Go229), and that manufacturer had designed only gliders, motor gliders, and light aircraft. At the time they were producing part assemblies for Messerschmitt and Focke-Wulf. They had no experience of radar installations.

So we have a small company taking on an independent design outside of the big names in the aircraft industry, which in Nazi Germany was a highly politicised industry with contracts difficult without party connections (Messerschmitt almost got sidelined before the war as he was an upstart newbie. He was offered a university post on one occaision to stop him meddling with design). Are we really expected to believe this scenario resulted in a state of the art cutting edge stealth fighter? I really don't accept that. Nor do I believe that Gotha had top secret research and information about radar available to them.
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