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The Tale of the Bomb in the Outback

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    Posted: 16 Jul 2009 at 11:27

In 1993, a seismic event was recorded originating somewhere in outback Western Australia. There were also a few reports of a flash on the horizon, or something that could have been an explosion. There was a short investigation by the seismologists, but they couldn't determine the cause and left it at that.

Two years later in 1995 Aum Shinrikyo let off gas into the Tokyo subway, investigations into the group revealed they had a large cattle station/training camp in the same region of western Australia. In 1997, the Australian Federal Police formally launched an investigation as to whether Aum Shinrikyo had detonated a nuclear bomb four years earlier.

The investigation concluded that they hadn't, and the seismic event was probably a meteor. However the idea that someone could've let of a nuclear bomb in outback WA without anyone noticing is definitely quite appealing.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cryptic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jul 2009 at 15:47
There maybe a few more possible nuculear conspiracies....
 
I read a book once by a serious author who was convinced that the Japanese had tested a 3 kiloton miniature bomb in a North Korean Harbor just weeks before the end of World War II.  Likewise, South Africa had a "mystery blast" in the Indian Ocean. Though seismic sensors indicated that it was a nuculear device, I dont think that they ever admitted to it.


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South Africa did have nuclear weapons, they remain the only country to have given them up. (I personally don't think they gave them up to be humanitarian, rather to prevent the black government getting their hands on them)
 
From what I remember the Japanese didn't even know what hit them, if they had their own bomb they probably would have been less eager to surrender too. I don't believe that one, the South Africa one is plausable it seems.
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So what did the investigation by Australian police turn up? Surely had a nuclear device been detonated, there would have been the obvious evidence of radioactive fallout.

Also, hate to quibble but more countries than South Africa have given up nukes. After the dissolution of the USSR, a number of newly independent sovereign states like Kazakhstan and Ukraine gave up theirs.
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There are many cases where meteors which exploded in the atmosphere have been initially mistaken four nuclear blasts.
These events are registered by satellites quite frequently.
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Originally posted by CXI CXI wrote:

So what did the investigation by Australian police turn up? Surely had a nuclear device been detonated, there would have been the obvious evidence of radioactive fallout.So what did the investigation by Australian police turn up? Surely had a nuclear device been detonated, there would have been the obvious evidence of radioactive fallout.
They didn't find any nuclear weapons, but Aum were using the station as a R&D facility. The Police found 29 sheep killed by Sarin gas, manufacturing and other equipment.
I can't remember exactly, and I can't find a good link to a news paper of the day (pre-internet days )
Quote Also, hate to quibble but more countries than South Africa have given up nukes. After the dissolution of the USSR, a number of newly independent sovereign states like Kazakhstan and Ukraine gave up theirs.
Yeah I suppose that's true, but I'm not sure I really consider those states to have been fully independent when they did. They gave them up because the Russians didn't want to risk loosing them.
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Originally posted by Omar al Hashim Omar al Hashim wrote:

 
From what I remember the Japanese didn't even know what hit them, if they had their own bomb they probably would have been less eager to surrender too. I don't believe that one, the South Africa one is plausable it seems.
I agree. Though it is worth mentioning that the common Japanese people had no idea what had hit them. Japanese phycisists, however, had known that an atomic bomb was theoritically possible for several years and had advised the military about the possible future use of atomic weapons. The Japanese and Germans both concluded that the engineering abilities to actually produce a  working bomb were twenty years away, not five.


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