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    Posted: 06 Jun 2011 at 21:30
Well the lying Democrat, Liberal, ba--trd has finally been pushed to the point of admiting he is an internet swine, and sexual predator!

But, I do expect his "Liberal" district to re-elect him!

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Pleae watch the news on TV or read American newspapers?

Or just twitter him?

US Congressman Weiner!

But he is obviously not an "Oscar Mayer" weiner!

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Daily show/colbert report will possibly be funnier now because of this.
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Its a funny story, but what is even funnier are the right wing cranks who can now use this as an excuse to further lose themselves in their schizo conspiracy theories.

Left wing cranks had plenty to run on on the various 'evangelical' nutters who happened to visit rent boys and have sex with fillipino men in steamy homosexual brothels...

... The moral highground is firmly established, I shall retreat to my armchair where I shall politick no more.

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Yes, Joe I just cannot wait! But just think how big this story would be if it was a conservative Protestant Republican?

Bells would be ringing in many cities if he was not a Liberal Jewish Democrat, who had denied any, and all such things for the last seven or eight days!

In the words of a famous movie scene, "he is a 'prevert!"

Let us see who comes out to defend him on this site?

Oh! I just saw that Parnell did! At least I think he did above?

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I don't think its a big deal as all the guy was trying to do was get some ass but I'm also not some senator whose married so theres a big difference. He should have known better but I wouldn't say its anything he should be fired for or have to apologize for. I mean who cares if he admits "Its my penis" so what who cares. I guess cause hes a senator people get all weird about it but its kinda funny he was trying to bang a college girl and was like check out what Im working worth and the media found it.  Any other man would have done the same thing if they thought they were gonna have sex with some college broad.
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It is a big story, the coverage reached all the way here and we don't even have elections.

 
As for conservative protestants, of course nooses should be raised for them, these guys win their seats or rip off their followers by preaching anti-gay anti-abortion family values crap while soliciting sex from male cops or renting boys with special physical features for their trip to Barcelona. Wiener if I am not mistaken defended Clinton's affair back in 99 and for him to have an affair is natural.
 
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Originally posted by Al Jassas Al Jassas wrote:

It is a big story, the coverage reached all the way here and we don't even have elections.

 
As for conservative protestants, of course nooses should be raised for them, these guys win their seats or rip off their followers by preaching anti-gay anti-abortion family values crap while soliciting sex from male cops or renting boys with special physical features for their trip to Barcelona. Wiener if I am not mistaken defended Clinton's affair back in 99 and for him to have an affair is natural.
 
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Originally posted by Al Jassas Al Jassas wrote:

It is a big story, the coverage reached all the way here and we don't even have elections.

 
As for conservative protestants, of course nooses should be raised for them, these guys win their seats or rip off their followers by preaching anti-gay anti-abortion family values crap while soliciting sex from male cops or renting boys with special physical features for their trip to Barcelona. Wiener if I am not mistaken defended Clinton's affair back in 99 and for him to have an affair is natural.
 
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Well put Al-Jassas, the difference is of course that a liberal who has a raucous personal life is not a hypocrite when it emerges he does something suspect. But somebody truly vile, the kind of hypocrite who wins elections by playing up the family man act, deserves the utter contempt and revulsion of all thinking people. This kind of hypocrisy permeates politics. For some reason some people demand higher moral and sexual standards from politicians, and whats worse they demand that their politicians speak publically about their great 'family values' or which is worst of all, their 'faith' - which of course demeans religion and true religiosity by relegating it to a political football to be kicked around by spineless politicians and watched avidly by unvirtuous citizens.
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Yeah but if guy did what he said he was going to do for people and not what he ran on does it really matter? If some dude is like I'm a family man and then bangs a girl half his age but is still doing a good job as a Senator does he really deserve to lose his job? Cause his personal life is out of hand?
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Again, I must admit, that I (with small skills in the English language), do not understand the point (if indeed one was made at all?), of member Parnell's post above?

And Al-Jassas, just what kind of community do you live within?

We note that you do not care to share with us just what part of the world you inhabit?

I could, of course, conceive, via your screen name, as living in some Liberal Arabic State? Like the "Great Britain?"

And, you Joe! You are just crazy!

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So being liberal and a democrat makes him a pervert? 
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No! In the movies the Southerner always says the word "Prevert!"

Even in the movie "Dr. Strangelove!"

And, I don't really give a poop about my "hour!"

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Originally posted by opuslola opuslola wrote:

Again, I must admit, that I (with small skills in the English language), do not understand the point (if indeed one was made at all?), of member Parnell's post above?

And Al-Jassas, just what kind of community do you live within?

We note that you do not care to share with us just what part of the world you inhabit?

I could, of course, conceive, via your screen name, as living in some Liberal Arabic State? Like the "Great Britain?"

And, you Joe! You are just crazy!

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My point was that the nimwits who demand public expressions of faith and family values from flawed and egotistical politicians are destined to be disappointed. Boris Johnson, the Tory mayor of London lives a hedonistic private life but nobody cares, because he never pretended to be some family man with stringent values. No, he always was a liberal minded yuppie who didn't lecture to people and could never be guilty of hypocrisy. You seem to want a political system where politicians are supposed to fill their constituents full of sh*t at all times.
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I unbderstand Parnell and above- if someone uses the "moral high-ground" in order to get elected or bolster his or her position then they better darn well live up to it. However, if they fully admit that they live a certain way or never make such claims at all, then it's not as big news.
 
IMO, if you a politician, or any person of authority for that matter, you do have an obligation to live up to certain standards or you need to remove yourself from your position. You can't expect others to act a certain way that you yourself cannot. That's one of the few things that really irks me..and I've unfortunately seen it all too often.
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Aside from whatever politician had done this, it still upsets me that i am forced to be talking about, let alone... even think about a politicians Weenie! Egads Dead


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Thanks Panther, that got me laughing! Nothing relieves pain like a good belly laugh!

And no, Parnell, I just think that all pols should receive equal disdain when, like in our Weenie's case, he was over eight days of denials in front of the press. He played the part of an innocent falsely accused brat for that period of time claiming he had important business to conduct.

He should resign immediately since it seems late breaking events may well consume him altogether along with his new wife.

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Another Media Moment, ho-hum! It should come as no to surprise to a student of History that scoundrels win elections all of the time but that this one had the temerity to use the Internet for his hijinxs also underscores that the electorate is just as equally foolish. Probity is all too rare in the general population for all of this unctuousness with respect to "private lives" by the Media junkies.
 
 


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Drgonzaga, ditto, I think?

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To begin, the things I won't reflect on at length, at least in this post:

1) Weiner's record as a congressman, which, particularly on social issues, has been reprehensible
2) The partisan double standard in the press, which I think is self-evident
3) What actually happened; nobody appears to know this at present

What I will address are the steps he seems to be taking in the interest of dealing with the situation, as well as our obligation to this man or any other that falls into similar circumstances. Weiner is far from alone in succumbing to this temptation. Increasingly people don't view online cheating as cheating; the fact that the congressman has acknowledged it as a morally reprehensible action is a net positive. I didn't think -- and this is only my opinion -- that he sounded insincere; hopefully this will help as he discusses the matter with his wife. Hopefully this will also help to educate people about the difficulties associated with the internet and anonymity, which affect men disproportionately.

The apology may have been politically motivated, it may not have; only Congressman Weiner -- and perhaps not even he -- knows the specifics. That said, he was obviously upset. The bottom line is that Congressman Weiner needs legitimate and sober criticism and understanding right now, not mockery. He is going to be traveling a difficult road, especially given his recent marriage; having admitted a problem that is quietly and rapidly becoming a social scourge, he deserves our moral support. May God grant him and his wife grace during this difficult period, and may He also grant that the responses to him are inspired by humility and humanity.

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Originally posted by Akolouthos Akolouthos wrote:

2) The partisan double standard in the press, which I think is self-evident
Yet is evident, at least in the US: opuslola presents a good example of the reason: there is a big market outthere for politically biassed sludge.
 
What would be wrong would be to claim that the media were driven by political motives. From the media point of view a story is a story, the higher ranking the villain the better, and selling what your target market wants to read is the key to success.
 
With regard to Weiner's conduct (incidentally sexual double entendres here show up a lack of basic vocabulary skills, or posssibly dyslexia) they either amount to crime or they don't. If they amount to crime (as Kahn's recent ons are alleged to be) or they don't. If they're crimes, they should be dealt with in the criminal system. If they are not crimes, then they may be hypocritical or they may not. Either way, hypcritical or not, the remedy is in the hands of the electors.
 
And overriding everything is the essential requirement of natural justice that the deeds of an individual should not taint or be used against other members of the same group, political, racial, religious or whatever.
 


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What partisan double standards Ako, last time I checked Clinton nearly lost his job because the supposed "liberal" media ran after his personal life while the next president had the entire "liberal" media cheerleading the way to an illegal war and still people complain.
 
I am with Graham on the criminal aspect of the case. If there was a criminal or ethical misconduct or the representative in question was a family values guy there must be consequences. Otherwise this is a non-stroy.
 
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It... amuses? me that both of you chose to focus on one of the things I was deliberately not focusing on in this thread. I would hope that you would both note that I never commented on whether he should resign or not -- although, perhaps, maybe I should have, as it seems that everyone is incapable of focusing on anything else. I would hope that you would also note that my analysis was couched, quite deliberately, in purely -- and objectively -- pastoral terms. You may try to make political hay out of that as much as you like, but you will be taking it out of context, and you will only be showing your own partisanship. May God save us from a situation when, even when some of us support and individual, he is only an object to us.

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Originally posted by Akolouthos Akolouthos wrote:

To begin, the things I won't reflect on at length, at least in this post:

2) The partisan double standard in the press, which I think is self-evident


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Mostly a typically good analysis by you except for this part. I will have to disagree and I think, in hindsight, you will too. All major news networks are carrying this story. Where is the double standard in this case?
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The partisan double standard does exist. The trouble is it takes the form 'We're good, you're bad.' When everybody removes the beam from their own eye instead of criticising the mote in the other guy's, things will improve. But I don't have much hope of it happening.
 
PS. In the Clinton case in early 1998 the mass media - all of them - pulled back their staff from covering the Pope's visit to Cuba to focus on the President's (only hinted at at that time) misbehaviour. I note that at least one Roman Catholic organisation gamely struggled on: http://www.americancatholic.org/features/cuba/


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Indeed it exists. I don't understand why we are stating the obvious though. 
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Becsuse people are suggesting the mass media are all on the same side, which is ridiculous.
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Ah I see...looking back now I notice that Al Jassas made that assumption. Though I think he knows better I wonder if he meant that CNN (Communist News Network) is more fair and balanced than some other news networks. 
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