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    Posted: 07 Aug 2015 at 02:13
King Henry II appointed Thomas Becket as Chancellor of England at the start of his reign in 1154.     
Henry gave Thomas so many estates and royal grants that Thomas became a very wealth man.       
In 1162 Thomas Becket was appointed Archbishop of Canterbury. Thomas resigned as chancellor.     
Instead of backing up King Henry II in dealings with the Pope, Becket obstructed the King.
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Whilst Chancellor, Becket would have done all in his power to promote Henry's interests. However, on becoming Archbishop, he would have the Church's interest high on his agenda - and hence the conflict with Henry, who no doubt thought he would be able to control Becket.

In appointing Becket to the primacy, was it Henry's sole objective to control the Church in England. Henry was a man who liked to control everything around him - the Church would surely have been just another "acquisition".

"I served our Theobald well when I was with him:
I served King Henry well as Chancellor:
I am his no more, and I must serve the Church."

~~~ Tennyson 
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The Theobald referred to in the above quotation was Theobald of Bec, who preceded Thomas a' Becket as Archbishop of Canterbury.  Theobald was born in Normandy, and was an ethnic Norman. (I believe that Thomas a' Becket was also of ethnic Norman descent).  Theobald was originally a monk in the Monastery of Bec in Normandy. He was eventually chosen as Abbot of Bec, and the following year, King Stephen of England (who was also Duke of Normandy) appointed him as Archbishop of Canterbury.

Theobald had a long and interesting career. He served as Archbishop of Canterbury during the period of the "Anarchy" , when King Stephen and the Empress Matilda (daughter of King Henry I) contended for the throne. At times, Archbishop Theobald acted as an intermediator between them. He mainly supported King Stephen, but at times opposed him, and once actually had to flee into exile for awhile. Theobald's efforts were aimed at ending the civil war and fighting. He did not support Stephen's making his son Eustace co-king. After Eustace's death, Theobald supported Matilda's son, Henry Plantagenet, as heir to the throne. Theobald crowned Henry Plantagenet as King Henry II, after King Stephen died.

 Theobald had his hands full in asserting the primacy of the diocese of Canterbury in England, as the diocese of York was asserting its independence from Canterbury. Theobald also had a hard time throughout his tenure with the monks of Christ Church Cathedral, who didn't always quietly accept his authority over them. Thomas a' Becket served Theobald as a clerk for several years before Henry II made Thomas his chancellor. Theobald died at an advanced age, and as he wished, was succeeded by Thomas as Archbishop of Canterbury.It's likely that Theobald was in many ways a role model for Thomas.
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Have just added John Guy's "Thomas Becket" to my personal library - will have to find some time to read.
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