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Quote What did the Greeks/Romans say about who manifests reality?
 
Time by itself does not exist... It must not be claimed that anyone can sense time apart from the movement of things.
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(Roman poet quoted in New Scientist article "The Time Delusion" 6th July 2019)
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Originally posted by caldrail caldrail wrote:

Quote What did the Greeks/Romans say about who manifests reality?
 
Time by itself does not exist... It must not be claimed that anyone can sense time apart from the movement of things.
Lucretius
(Roman poet quoted in New Scientist article "The Time Delusion" 6th July 2019)
Thanks for the link it's good article, the last piece relates to Simultaneity IMO.
I'm not sure it perfectly illustrates a lack of free will but it tells us that the body has an independent intelligence of which we are unaware.

"Neuroscience has also chipped in. Around 30 years ago psychologist Benjamin Libet discovered that if you ask people to make voluntary movements, their brains initiate the movement before they become consciously aware of any intention to move. Other experiments have since been performed along similar lines, leading many neuroscientists to conclude that free will is an illusion."

Read more: The grand delusion: Who's in control? | New Scientist 
The grand delusion: Blind to bias
LOL

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Free will is an illusion eh? So who exactly gives me instructions at work? A figment of my imagination I can safely ignore? Or perhaps a superior form of life known collectively as 'managers' who quite obviously hail from a different planet? I shall investigate further....
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Originally posted by caldrail caldrail wrote:

Free will is an illusion eh? So who exactly gives me instructions at work? A figment of my imagination I can safely ignore? Or perhaps a superior form of life known collectively as 'managers' who quite obviously hail from a different planet? I shall investigate further....
Maybe you are the employee and the manager ?  
Maybe the only thing separating you from the manager is a stream of consciousness unique to yourself, not a soul but the very newest part, of all that you have ever been. 

I feel like I have the other complex from the article, lol. I feel like I'm controlling everything.
These particular findings are interesting and encouraging, science finally crawling out of the dogma, but not exactly tracking with my own ideas about consciousness.


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