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    Posted: 05 Dec 2013 at 02:20
History is written by winners and often they are distorted propaganda. I am
going to write short less biased history from japan's perspective including
slight conspiracies theories from around 1600.

England was falling behind others in east asia and probably helped tokugawa win
thus trying to get influence in japan.
It worked somewhat, but after going to thailand tokugawa realized danger of west
and killed christians and closed the door.
Japan avoided colonization due to very smart move of isolation.
"nineteen bronze cannons, 5,000 cannonballs, 500 muskets, 300 chain-shot"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_%28sailor%29

Japan was forced open by imperialistic usa which is sort of expanded manifest
destiny. West (freemason) help finance overthrow of tokugawa. Overthrow was
successful but perhaps conspiracies was discovered. Anyway with west's
investment and learn from west, japan modernized super rapidly.
"In 1873, the Imperial government enacted the conscription law....democracy."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Japan

Qing did not really care too much about not too valuable taiwan and korea until
french in vietnam and opium wars etc. Japan was convinced(with some west adviser
influence) that japan's safety depends on strong korea. So japan sided with
korean that wanted to modernize. And japan won taiwan plus independence of korea
from china etc.

China and korea know they cannot win senkaku and takeshima in international
court so they try brute force.
South korea is occupying japanese takeshima island, but dokdo is not takeshima.
Dokdo is alternate name for ulleung or name of tiny rock 1 mile from ulleung on
ancient korean maps.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkaku_Islands_dispute

"Russia, Germany and France forced Japan to return the territory won in Liaodong"
Of course japan was pissed when russia got liaodong after. And make it worse,
korean rulers were drifting toward russia.
I think only reason japan won against russia was fact that jews were mad that
russia for fabricating "protocal of zion." with a modification of 1864 political
satire by Maurice Joly. It is remarkable and if you read the outline, it seems
to predict world today.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
"Conversely, Japan's pre-war gold reserves were a modest ??11.7 million; a major
portion of the total cost of the war was covered by money borrowed from the
United Kingdom and the United States.
During his canvassing expedition in London, the Japanese Vice-Governor of the
Bank of Japan met Jacob Schiff, a Jewish-American banker and head of Kuhn, Loeb
& Co. Schiff was sympathetic to Japan's cause, and extended a critical series of
loans to the Empire of Japan, in the amount of $200 million"
n.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War#Financing

Japan modernized/educated/provided law to taiwan/korea/manch which were better
than western colonization.
Chinese/north korean suffered way more from fake oppressive communist than
japan. Of course communists in soviet and china killed tens of millions.
Japan modernized/educated korea, taiwan, and manchu. Chinese communist was
somewhat smart and let ROC and japan fight. Of course ROC lost mainland to fake
communist and went to taiwan. ROC leader Chiang Kai-shek got education in
Imperial Japanese Army Academy. Irony is japan fought ROC and USA but they are
close friend, mean while fake communists and koreans make lots noise.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan
Right after the war, mao did not complain much about nankin because it was
fabricated/exaggerate by west and communist spies. Like today, usa had huge
spying and espionage agencies and reporters were spies too. As for military
prostitute they were a NORMAL part of war and they recruited by korean
traffickers and were paid. Back then even poor starving japanese sold their kids
and korean did so much more. Of course some were tricked, not by japanese
government, but mostly from korean traffickers. There were some rape etc., but
probably less than usa after ww2.
Elite korean/taiwanese had japanese name and learned japanese. Most of police in
korea were koreans too. I would say blacks in usa were more discriminated.
Korea's first president Rhee Syngman recorded his nationality as Japanese.
Park Chung-hee was born poor, but became officer in JAPANESE elite Kwantung army
and became south korean leader 1961-1979. In 1965, he ask japan for help and
japan provided over us$500 million in settlement and aid which was about twice
south korean budget(today us$1 trillion). By his choice, he used it for
modernized rather than compensate people.
Right after ww2, some koreans illegally migrated to japan and LIED to get
papers. This is sort of proof that some koreans loved opportunity in japan. 80%
of pachinko gambling parlors are own by korean ethnicity, softbank leader too.

Taiwan contributed $200m to fukushima and very friendly to japan. Between qing,
west, roc, prc, and japan, top choice is japan.
Google nemoto-hiroshi-shadow-warrior-behind-the-1949-battle-of-guningtou
The lessons Yoichi Hatta taught us
taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2013/05/10/2003561883/1

ww2:
I think churchill intentionally let japanese spy have technology to build
aircarft carrier/bomber so that japan will able to attack US navy. Semple was
not punished for repeatedly leaking.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Forbes-Sempill,_19th_Lord_Sempill

Usa froze japanese asset and embargoed. I am sure that usa will consider that as
act of war if north korea had power to freeze usa asset and embargoed us ships
in pacific. West also helped china.
Hull Note Written by a Soviet Spy "The American counter-proposal of 26 November
required that Japan evacuate all of China without conditions and conclude
non-aggression pacts with all Pacific powers." People knew this demand was
essentially forcing war declaration.
www.urlcase.com/case/article1/01/011.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II
Japan did not want to fight usa, but japan had to. Japan hope that hurting us
navy will give it enough time to secure oil. Japan wanted to liberate asia from
racist western colonization though it also had imperial intent too.

West illegally overthrew hawaiian constitutional monarchy and hawaii became usa
territory(like colony). By then 99% of natives died and whites owned lots of
land and imported lots japanese/chinese/portugees(not owners)/etc. labors.
Hawaii became a state in 1959, so pearl harbor was japan attacking occupying
forces of usa.
Racist usa illegally sent amerian citizens of japanese descent to internment
camps and caused them to lose lots of land and opportunity. If it was not for
this, I would say vast majority of usa farms would have been owned by fugal
smart japanese americans with great farming and business skills.

History is written by winners and GHQ(usa force occupying japan) influenced
koreans and japanese to teach distorted history to make it easier for usa to
control using divide and conquer technique. Distorted theme was bad japanese
enslaved koreans who were saved by americans. Media was also controlled in japan
and nothing negative about allies(and korea) was to be taught or reported. It
was similar to communist media control of china today. Mean while rape,atrocity
etc. of usa/korea/china were not taught. Even today, japanese media is somewhat
anti-japanese.
GHQ gave koreans allied status which gave them immunity from japanese law.
Lawlessness occurred (worse than mexican gang situation today.) Organized
koreans killed, raped, looted, and even raided police station. Part of reason
japanese yakuza still have power is due to fact japanese yakuza fought these
korean criminals thus became hero to some towns.
Some korean or descent(even 2-4 th generation)love keeping non-japanese
citizenship partly because they get special privilege(more than japanese in
japan). Billions of people want japanese citizenship but not them. Unfortunately
for japan though, crime rate by korean descent is high and even compare to other
minority. Plus many are probably spies of N/S korea. They probably import lots
drugs and guns. Of course there's 50,000 south korean visitor prostitute in
japan. Koreans and americans have high rate of rape and violence in their own
country though only korean standout in japan.

Google:
"Rape during the occupation of Japan"
"mao virgin"
"Kill 'em All': The American Military in Korea"

Wiki:
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Rocket:

I'd like to see your source for the comment,
"Japan was forced open by imperialistic usa which is sort of expanded manifest destiny. West (freemason) help finance overthrow of tokugawa."

My interest is in your assertion the Freemasons financed the overthrow of Tokugawa.

Some of your comments seem a little ethnocentric to me.

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In fact, having just read your post again, I find it very one sided, and rather than being an historical treatise, it's an ethnocentric rant against the USA.

By all means criticise the USA where needed in the historical weave of your thread, but you elected to call your thread "Japanese History after 1600". Is this all that happened in Japanese history after 1600?

Was there no political or social activity at all.

Were there no Arts or Music?

Do you have anything to offer in support of the title?

I would have thought that involvement in WWI might have got a mention. How about the treacherous attack on Pearl Harbour? The Rape of Nan King? The Burma Railway?

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Due to “War Guilt Information Program” espionage by USA, only distorted propaganda/lies were taught about japan.  When the truth is told, it get labeled as revisionist/right winger by those who want to perpetuate lies or those naive people who grew up believing such propaganda/lies.
With internet, freedom of information act, and japan bashing, the suppressed truth is coming out.
USA, Japan, Korea China etc. used a military prostitution and had atrocities.  
Visit my blog to learn the truth.  If you find error, let me know and I will fix them.
google "real7777 Atrocity USA" or  “real7777 comfort” or "real7777 pearl harbor"
WIKI
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.  USA raped 50,000 first month occupying Japan; “every woman, girl, and child” in some Okinawa village
.  Japan had to create Recreation_and_Amusement_Association prostitution station so less rape by USA occupiers
.  USA killed Japanese solders after they surrender often taking skull as a souvenir
.  After the surrender, USA told doctors to NOT treat nuke victim and just observe for data
.  USA firebombed using bombing exit area first and then inside killing civilian mostly women and elderly which made stealing prime land after the war easier.
.  Some estimate Allies raped 2 million rapes in Germany, 1-2 million in Japan, and France after D-day.  It is easy to believe since Center for Disease Control estimates over 1.3 million rapes per year in USA today.
.  After D-day, french women were raped and prostitution station had to be created.
.  In Korean War, USA “kill'em all” including gunning down kids.  USA/S Korea raped and forced N korean women into prostitution
.  Military prostitution existed during Korean/Vietnam War
.  Vietnam war, Koreans raped like 200,000 and resulted in  20,000+ babies left behind
.  Federal statistics show about 216,000 adult and juvenile inmates are sexually assaulted each year in USA
In1919 League of Nation, Japan “ Racial Equality Proposal” and ends in colonialism but USA blocked it.
Hawaiian Kingdom was ILLEGALLY overthrown in 1893.  President Grover Cleveland considered the overthrow to have been an illegal act of war but after him USA occupied until eventually Hawaii became state in 1959.



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FDR was fooled by around 300 communist spies in high level government position in USA and wanted war badly but prevented by the neutrality act and public opinion was way above 90% against war.  FDR provoked japan every which way possible forcing japan into corner.   There was news paper article few days before pearl harboar, FDR only saved aircraft carriers and sacrificed INTENTIONALLY others. These things make FDR war criminal and guilty of treason.  Japan reluctantly attacked USA forces which were illegally occupying Hawaii.  Hawaiian Kingdom was ILLEGALLY overthrow 1893.  President Grover Cleveland considered the overthrow to have been an illegal act of war but after him USA occupied until eventually Hawaii became state in 1959.
google "real7777 wordpress pearl harbor"
.  USA financed, trained, and supplied china.
.  USA flying tigers with 100 fighters and pilots attacked Japanese military in China(would be called terrorist now days).
.  USA plan to use 100 bombers with Chinese uniform, last moment bombers were diverted to England to use against German.
.  Blockade, sanctions, and freezing of assets.
.  USA created and adjusted orange and rainbow plan to fight japan.
.  (1991 ABCNEWS20/20 Pearl Harbor with Barbra Walters for above)
.  Hull note demanding immediate withdraw from everything(written by Soviet spy)
.  There was like 300 soviet spies in high position in USA also as reporters in china etc.
.  1929 racists in California passed law forbidding ethnic Japanese(even American citizen) to own land
.  Before Pearl Harbor FDR "Secret Enemy Exchange Program" and imprisoned ethnic german/japanese (most were american citizen) to use as HOSTAGE for prisoner exchange.  This is nothing less than criminal act of kidnapings.
Even MacArthur realized the truth by 1951.
Korea/Taiwan was a part of Japan just like Okinawa. When Japan won battles, they celebrated in streets.  This was not like west colonization.  Japan modernized with huge investments:  population 13million to 26 million; literacy 4% to 60%; life expectancy 24 to 56; abolish slavery; reduced crime(including rape and abduction); elections; opportunity for a good jobs(doctor,dentist,governor,police etc);
Joseon(old Korea) was nasty placed to be with 40% slaves and literacy was 4% since rulers thought it will cause up rise. It was much worse even than North Korea today and probably close to current prison camp. Yanbans(evil elite) were like 1 million Kim Jong Un.  Korea complaining is equivalent of Hong Kong complaining about british rule.
Comfort Women were mostly Japanese.  Starving people sold kids in Japan and rest of asia. Korean recruiters were used in Korea.  In 2013 diary of Korean worker in SE Asia station owned by Korean was discovered.  Japanese/korean/taiwan solders had to pay about 1 week worth of wage.   In “1944 USA war report” USA did not rescue comfort women instead they **captured** and women became POW.  Comfort women ate good and “were able to buy cloth, shoes, cigarettes, and cosmetics” luxury items.  Things got deteriorated in SE asia toward end of ww2 and some criminal japanese solder tricked and abducted but these were still minority and probably only 1-2%.  Some japanese military criminals were executed by Japan.  Japan apologized few times because today's sentiment considers paid prostitution tragic.  Even today, Korean prostitutes are forced by debt and Korean traffickers.  “Korean Feminist Association alleged that from 514,000 to 1.2 million Korean women participate in the prostitution industry“

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In Tungchow Mutiny(before Nanking), Chinese solders brutally massacred Japanese civilian; brooms in genital; severed heads of  waitresses; Chinese perpetrator raped the dead; the intestines was savagely taken out of the body;
Mao, Shek, and media did not complain/report much about Nanking because it was a fabricated propaganda which used a few pictures from Tungchow Mutiny. In fact when japanese communist visited Mao, Mao told them he was thankful for weakening shek's army. WW2 American propaganda film only mention "atrocity of indiscriminately  bombing that killed 37k"
Google "real7777 wordpress nanking" for various link including ww2 usa propaganda video
Google "real7777 wordpress nemoto guningtou" to find out how japanese saved ROC/Taiwan from fake oppressive communist.

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How come you don't just google "freemason meiji"?

"Were there no Arts or Music?"
Why do you want me to write IRREVERENT part of history that does not mean much to  MY outline?
What would benefit of ME copying/translating from wiki/youtube etc?


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With money, communist got aggressive with 1000 year china dream to takeover the world. Evil greedy globalists and fake oppressive chinese communists in 1970s colluded and created virtual slavery at $0.10/hour wages.  Rich Iraq got poor and USA poor too while globalist owns chinese oil companies and profiteered from Iraqi $10/barrel contract. China/S Korea intensified campaign of Japan bashing with lies, hate, and distortion after Aoyama disclosed there are huge potential for gas/oil in the water around japan.   There are 500,000 chinese working for 50 cent army who do cyber espionage and censor. S Korean version VANK financed by korea and china.   Chinese spying is all over the world.  Chinese business/students/scientist in world are part of china influence/spy.  They try hard to push lies in effort to steal island from japan and asia.  Senkaku is NOT contested any more than whole USA are not contested by some native American. With internet, freedom of information act, and japan bashing, the suppressed truth is coming out. 1969 chinese map show SENKAKU proving they believed it was part of Japan.
Google “real7777 china communist" for details, pictures,wiki, youtube link etc.  If there's any error let me know so I can fix them.
Today, there are around 200,000 abduction per year in china and 3 million labor/sex/bride slaves in china and communities are ok knowing it since it was old chinese tradition.
Qing were manchu and after communist genocide manchu area became han majority similar to Tibet and Uighur are getting replaced by han. Mao was also child molester who had many under aged virgin girls.
Iris Chang committed suicide(or killed) since she found out what she wrote was propaganda lie.
In Tungchow Mutiny(before Nanking), Chinese solders brutally massacred Japanese civilian; brooms in genital; severed heads of  waitresses; Chinese perpetrator raped the dead; the intestines was savagely taken out of the body;
Mao, Shek, and media did not complain/report much about Nanking because it was a fabricated propaganda which used a few pictures from Tungchow Mutiny. In fact when japanese communist visited Mao, Mao told them he was thankful for weakening shek's army. WW2 American propaganda film only mention "atrocity of indiscriminately  bombing that killed 37k"
Google "real7777 wordpress nanking" for various link including ww2 usa propaganda video
Google "real7777 wordpress nemoto guningtou" to find out how japanese saved ROC/Taiwan from fake oppressive communist.
Taiwan sent $200m for fukishima disaster.

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USA refused Korean request/lies and USA returned Takeshima island to Japan.  S Korea invaded Japan and killed few dozen fishermen to take Takeshima.  In 1970s N koreans abducted probably few hundred japanese though only admit to dozen.
Despite that Japan forgave and Kpop/Krama became huge hit in Japan.
After Aoyama disclosed there are huge potential for gas/oil around water off japan, China/S Korea intensified campaign of Japan bashing with lies, hate, and distortion. Japanese Kids in USA are getting bullied. Chinese have 500,000 people woking in 50 cent army.  S Korea have VANK cyber organization funded by S korea and china.  Chinese spying  is all over the world.  Chinese business/students/scientist in world are part of china influence/spy.  They try hard to push lies in effort to steal island from japan and asia. Bad media that are influenced by chinese money should be tone down.
Evil greedy globalists and fake oppressive chinese communists in 1970s colluded and created virtual slavery at $0.10/hour wages.  Rich Iraq got poor and USA poor too while globalist owns chinese oil companies and profiteered from $10/barrel contract.  With money, fake oppressive chinese communist got aggressive with 1000 year china dream to takeover the world.
Japaneses are most polite and subtle people with safest low crime country.  However, japan bashing caused japanese to hate koreans/chinese that spread lies as well inhuman being that say things like "congratulation to fukushima" "sink japan to bottom of ocean" "all japanese monkeys should die"
Lots koreans hate Americans too.  Even popular PSY rapper had "kill Yankee and kids" song.
I want to spread the truth so please read my blogs and report any error so I can correct them.
google "real7777 Atrocity USA"  “real7777 comfort”  "real7777 pearl harbor" "real7777 annexation" "real7777 china communist"  for details, pictures,wiki, youtube link etc.
Korean scholars on Comfort Prostitute google "scholarsinenglish blogspot"
Explicit "Paid Comfort Prostitute" should be used since world don't understand Japanese subtlety. Japanese/korean/taiwan solders had to pay about 1 week worth of wage. Paid Comfort Prostitute were mostly Japanese. Starving people sold kids even in japan. Korean recruiters were used in Korea(some tricked).  In 2013 diary of Korean manager in SE Asia station owned by Korean was discovered.    In “1944 USA war report” Comfort Prostitute ate good and “were able to buy cloth, shoes, cigarettes, and cosmetics” luxury items. In 2013 diary of Korean manager in SE Asia station owned by Korean was discovered.  Some low level japanese/korean solder abducted/raped but these were CRIMES which were against Japanese policy. Some japanese military criminals were executed by Japan.  Japan apologized many times because today's sentiment considers paid prostitution tragic. "real7777 wordpress apology”
Japan helped/settled Korean Annexation in 1965 with $500 million(us$50 billion after inflation).
USA, Japan, Korea China etc. used a military prostitution and had atrocities.
Japan had to create Recreation_and_Amusement_Association prostitution station so less rape by USA occupiers.
Truth and Reconciliation Commission
진실 화해를 위한 과거사 정리 위원회
jeju massacre
korean war prostitution
양공주
korean prostitution
vietnam war atrocities korean(200,000 rape, whole villages were round up and gun down)
killem all korea war usa/s korea gun down even children
baekjeong (백정) basically 1400 years of slavery after baekje lost against tang
“Miracle on the Han River" S Korean economic growth came from Japanese money,technology transfer, and sacrifice of Korean War prostitutes earning foreign currency from USA troop .  These prostitutes were the Korean hero, not chaebol greedy elites got rich off these money. In 1965, Japan gave S Korea us$500 million(us50$billion adjusting for inflation) since S Korean President Park Chung-hee asked for help/settlement.  Park Chung-hee( father of current Korean president) was born poor, but became officer in JAPANESE elite army and became South Korean leader  in1961 until he was assassinated by korean in 1979.   He managed Korean War prostitutes and took all foreign currency and gave prostitute very little. What's unbelievable is these broke korean war hero ex-prostitutes are being evicted from base town.
google "real7777 annexation"  “real7777 comfort”

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