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    Posted: 28 Dec 2017 at 02:47
Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Quote Now, once and for all-we won't post on Trump anymore. Don't take us to task for historic posts-and this doesn't mean that we've changed our minds, rather we'd like to keep you as an on-line friend.

THIS PROBLEM IS GIVING ME THE IRRITS!!!

I'm a member of other on-line fora, and it doesn't happen when I post on them, only on WH.

Can someone help me please???

Stop saying that the problem is talking about Trump.
Stop saying I'm to be coddled bc I get "upset" I repeat you have gotten raging , pissing mad at people long before you ever deigned to talk to me.

I am not responsible for your temperament. And I know better than to ignore the BS that you & Frank have been trafficking in. Why don't your moderator duties extend to *OFF TOPIC* comments about Trump in threads that have nothing to do with him? Simple question. Asked a number of times you will not address your bias. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Dec 2017 at 02:40
Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Quote Now, once and for all-we won't post on Trump anymore. Don't take us to task for historic posts-and this doesn't mean that we've changed our minds, rather we'd like to keep you as an on-line friend.

THIS PROBLEM IS GIVING ME THE IRRITS!!!

I'm a member of other on-line fora, and it doesn't happen when I post on them, only on WH.

Can someone help me please???

Do you clear your history/cookies?

Could always go back and do back up & restore computer to an earlier date before problem started. 

If you are running Windows go to Start menu- Control Panel -System and Security -Back up & restore.

Pretty self explanatory from there but
Message if doesn't work
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Dec 2017 at 01:07
Quote Now, once and for all-we won't post on Trump anymore. Don't take us to task for historic posts-and this doesn't mean that we've changed our minds, rather we'd like to keep you as an on-line friend.

THIS PROBLEM IS GIVING ME THE IRRITS!!!

I'm a member of other on-line fora, and it doesn't happen when I post on them, only on WH.

Can someone help me please???


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Dec 2017 at 00:58
Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

Worry about your own bumbling buffoon posts.


(All we require in response is a simple "Roger copy that.")Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 13:35
Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

Worry about your own bumbling buffoon posts.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Dec 2017 at 12:25
Worry about your own bumbling buffoon posts.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Dec 2017 at 23:26
Quote 1. Dark Warrior disagreed with your Trump BS.

2. What are you talking about when you say upset me? Everyone gets peeved. 

3. If you're not emotional then what is red faced demon about? Stop with the nonsense about getting peeved. Look at your angry red face. Unhappy

1. Totally irrelevant.

2. No, everyone doesn't get peeved. The rest of occasionally get angry when falsely accused, hence the red faced emoji- I'm fed up with being castigated for trying to do the right thing by you.

3. For the last time-accept the fact that Frank and I were acting in your best interests as we didn't want you getting upset over the bumbling buffoon posts. 

You restarted the battle, not us.

Now, once and for all-we won't post on Trump anymore. Don't take us to task for historic posts-and this doesn't mean that we've changed our minds, rather we'd like to keep you as an on-line friend.

OVER & OUT.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Dec 2017 at 23:08
Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Quote Someone else did say something on the matter and they also thought you & toyomotor were wrong. 

The answer isn't not talking about it. Can't we apply the same rules as in other threads, other subjects. 

Just too emotional. So you have to insult and disavow and feign ignorance of the facts.

1. Who said that?

2. If we don't talk about it, we shouldn't upset you, should we?

3. There's only one member getting too emotional, and it's not Frank or me.Angry

Dark Warrior disagreed with your Trump BS.

What are you talking about when you say upset me? Everyone gets peeved. 

If your not emotional then what is red faced demon about? Stop with the nonsense about getting peeved. Look at your angry red face. Unhappy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Dec 2017 at 18:20
Quote Someone else did say something on the matter and they also thought you & toyomotor were wrong. 

The answer isn't not talking about it. Can't we apply the same rules as in other threads, other subjects. 

Just too emotional. So you have to insult and disavow and feign ignorance of the facts.

1. Who said that?

2. If we don't talk about it, we shouldn't upset you, should we?

3. There's only one member getting too emotional, and it's not Frank or me.Angry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Dec 2017 at 13:22
Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

We (you toyomotor, and I, franciscosan) can leave sleeping dogs lie, if someone else wants to pick it up (and wake up a dog), that would be fine, I (and you) should worry about what to do, then.  I don't know how many people read the Trump threads but don't actively participate.  Maybe someone new would like to say something. Clap

So, we two people agree to cease and desist, do we?

Someone else did say something on the matter and they also thought you & toyomotor were wrong. 

The answer isn't not talking about it. Can't we apply the same rules as in other threads, other subjects. 

Just too emotional. So you have to insult and disavow and feign ignorance of the facts. 
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Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Do you think it's time we terminated the Trump topics.

They've upset and insulted one of our members, and we don't want that.
I can discuss news about Trump and if you want to be nasty I can be nasty. Polite works too. 
  
Update on the US/Canadian diplomats who were sickened inCuba. All the scientists really know is that a sound delivery system caused destruction of white matter in the brain. White matter that makes connections for us like directing physical actions. 


toyomotor, before you flag this as *OFF TOPIC!*
-you started that conversation here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Dec 2017 at 09:04
Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Do you think it's time we terminated the Trump topics.

They've upset and insulted one of our members, and we don't want that.
I can discuss news about Trump and if you want to be nasty I can be nasty. Polite works too. 
  
Update on the US/Canadian diplomats who were sickened inCuba. All the scientists really know is that a sound delivery system caused destruction of white matter in the brain. White matter that makes connections for us like directing physical actions. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 11:39
Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

yes, for now, if someone else revives this thread, then great, but I won't bother with it for now, but only if others bring it back forth.

Quote "Well, the cows gone dry and the hens won't lay,
The fish stopped bitin' last Saturday.
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yes, for now, if someone else revives this thread, then great, but I won't bother with it for now, but only if others bring it back forth.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Nov 2017 at 11:36
Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

We (you toyomotor, and I, franciscosan) can leave sleeping dogs lie, if someone else wants to pick it up (and wake up a dog), that would be fine, I (and you) should worry about what to do, then.  I don't know how many people read the Trump threads but don't actively participate.  Maybe someone new would like to say something. Clap

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We (you toyomotor, and I, franciscosan) can leave sleeping dogs lie, if someone else wants to pick it up (and wake up a dog), that would be fine, I (and you) should worry about what to do, then.  I don't know how many people read the Trump threads but don't actively participate.  Maybe someone new would like to say something. Clap
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Do you think it's time we terminated the Trump topics.

They've upset and insulted one of our members, and we don't want that.
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Donald Trump in the campaign blamed China for American economic "problems."

But in a speech to the Chinese he said it was not the Chinese fault, that they were only doing what
nations should be doing.  For Trump it is all former administrations' fault.

He can't have it both ways?  It just does not work.  But, I understand why he schmoozed with the Chinese, in his "predator" attitude towards life, he likes the Chinese being predators.  One is supposed to be a predator, and so to him they are doing what should be done.  Now a lot of Chinese are hungrier than Americans, but there is a global system that serves nations and there is a system of rules for that global system which China plays fast and loose with, and they are allowed to get away with it, but not following cultural property rules, and copyright drags on the entire system.  There are things they are responsible for that are detrimental, not just to us, but to everybody.  They should be smacked down, but I am not sure that Trump has the heart for it, or worse, he will try, but bollox it up.
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There are two prominent power groups in North Korea,
Kim Jong Un's family
military.
Getting rid of old timers in the military consolidates Kim Jong Un's power, it also means he doesn't have to cater to them as much.  But, I am not sure that that makes for more stability.  It seems that just means that they will be more likely to play follow the leader into catastrophe.

There is no one who knows more than an 18 year old, sophomore in college.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2017 at 11:47
Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

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Quote Family members in government positions isn't what I'd like to see. Equally concerning -an administration full of people disloyal to the administration, wiki leaking all over themselves.

I agree, it's a peculiar position to be in, sharing your administration with people opposed to you and your policies. One good reason I suppose to employ family members whose loyalty is beyond question, but hardly an ideal situation.


Quote Old Generals? Meaning people who don't obey him? Why do new generals serve KJU better than old ones?

No, I think that the perception would be that some of these general are simply too old to take the country to war. Many are over 70yrs of age. OTH, the young up and comers would be more likely to injest some zeal into conflict.
Older people also know more. Wink  Puts KJU off his cheetos
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2017 at 10:52
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Quote Family members in government positions isn't what I'd like to see. Equally concerning -an administration full of people disloyal to the administration, wiki leaking all over themselves.

I agree, it's a peculiar position to be in, sharing your administration with people opposed to you and your policies. One good reason I suppose to employ family members whose loyalty is beyond question, but hardly an ideal situation.


Quote Old Generals? Meaning people who don't obey him? Why do new generals serve KJU better than old ones?

No, I think that the perception would be that some of these general are simply too old to take the country to war. Many are over 70yrs of age. OTH, the young up and comers would be more likely to injest some zeal into conflict.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2017 at 10:44
Quote franciscosan-I always wonder if things quiet down on an issue because they have genuinely quieted down, or if they appear to quiet down, because we go into a new news cycle, when the people who have the concentration of a gnat, and the media switch topics in order to have something "new" to report.
Hard to say, some things just won't go away others should be heard but public interest is too low for ratings. You are correct to have pointed out the value of multi sources of information. How much will Hollywood profit from Harvey Weinstein after enabling him for decades? Movie$, book$ lol.

Quote It is said that Americans believe problems can get solved in 30 minutes if it is a comic issue, and 60 minutes if it is a serious issue, it is even less time than that, if one includes commercial brakes.  The saying, "out of sight, out of mind" seems especially applicable to foreign issues in strange countries.
There's that annoying and increasingly frequent phenomenon. And then there's my new favorite where people are behaving as if they are starring in a reality tv show the cameras are hidden but there is definitely a performance going on, others are in on it too. Describing PTA meeting.

Quote I guess if the launch sites (?cement pads??) are crumbling, then there may genuinely be a break.
So this is pretty unsettling. No major fault lines in NoKo but they have plenty of earthquakes. One on the 12th was 2.7. That can't be good for a landscape dug out with tunnels, radioactive materials and mountain ranges. 
 

http://sputniknews.com/asia/201710121058183289-earthquake-north-korea-speculation-nuke/

Early on Friday, yet another earthquake was detected near the Punggye-ri nuclear test site in North Korea, where Chinese scientists have warned that more nuclear tests could cause the mountain to crumble in on itself and spread radiation.

The earthquake was small, according to media reports, but large enough to cause entire buildings in Russia and China to shake, the Daily Mail reported. Previous tests have caused earthquakes in the area surrounding North Korea's only known nuclear testing location.

This:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10/13/north-korea-may-have-destabilized-nuclear-testing-

grounds-experts-say.html

South Korea’s weather agency detected a 2.7 magnitude earthquake near the Punggye-ri test site, Reuters reported.

“I think the Punggye-ri region is now pretty saturated. If it goes ahead with another test in this area, it could risk radioactive pollution,” Kim So-gu, the head researcher at the Korea Seismological Institute, told Reuters.

Friday's quake marked the country’s fourth since an underground nuclear test in the Punggye-ri region on Sept. 3, which caused a 6.3 magnitude tremor. North Korea has claimed the test, its sixth and most powerful yet, was a hydrogen bomb. U.S. intelligence reportedly determined the blast was 10 times greater than that of the nuclear bomb dropped over Hiroshima at the end of World War II.



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Quote  But anyway, he's promoted his sister to a position of prominence in his administration (remind you of someone else?) in order to shore up his personal support. There are also rumours that he's having a clean out of the Old Generals, again promoting fresher blood to high positions. Could be he's going on to a war footing.

Family members in government positions isn't what I'd like to see. Equally concerning -an administration full of people disloyal to the administration, wiki leaking all over themselves.

Old Generals? Meaning people who don't obey him? Why do new generals serve KJU better than old ones?
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I think that there is another (unintended meaning) of peeing over the line.  Bullies will challenge each other to 'cross that line,' it would seem just like Trump to not cross that line, but pee over it.  Not that i think that would be a good strategy, I just think that it is like something Trump would want to do.

I always wonder if things quiet down on an issue because they have genuinely quieted down, or if they appear to quiet down, because we go into a new news cycle, when the people who have the concentration of a gnat, and the media switch topics in order to have something "new" to report.

I guess if the launch sites (?cement pads??) are crumbling, then there may genuinely be a break.

It is said that Americans believe problems can get solved in 30 minutes if it is a comic issue, and 60 minutes if it is a serious issue, it is even less time than that, if one includes commercial brakes.  The saying, "out of sight, out of mind" seems especially applicable to foreign issues in strange countries.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 05:50
Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

toyomotor, the Line is the fictitious line between No & SoKo.

franciscosan, Junior's Junior is the third KJU, son of KJIl, son of Kim Il -sung.

Dark, do you know anything about the NoKo missile launch sites crumbling ? 

1. Thank you, I understand now.  LOL

2. So, he's really the third KIM-the other names are their first names.

3. I read somewhere that there's a rumour to that effect, and that's the only reason he hasn't launched more missiles.

4. But anyway, he's promoted his sister to a position of prominence in his administration (remind you of someone else?) in order to shore up his personal support. There are also rumours that he's having a clean out of the Old Generals, again promoting fresher blood to high positions. Could be he's going on to a war footing.


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toyomotor, the Line is the fictitious line between No & SoKo.

franciscosan, Junior's Junior is the third KJU, son of KJIl, son of Kim Il -sung.

Dark, do you know anything about the NoKo missile launch sites crumbling ? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2017 at 12:42
Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Originally posted by Dark Warrior Dark Warrior wrote:

Junior's junior remains a punk wannabe.i recommend an immediate B52 fly by exactly one mile out... out over the Sea and into international waters right on up the coast of the PRC.

Or have a attack class surface...in international waters..off the coast and let the PRC monitor a missile lock onto the DPRK....they will sh*tt into their rice bowls. And do nothing.


Being somewhat of a hawk, I tend to agree with you.

Better still if the were multiple "lock-ons" from many ships etc.


Indeed. To date them Tomahawks have an amazing success ratio. Junior's junior needs to remember that.
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You the DMZ is a strip of land that has basically returned to nature, birds and deer indigenous to South Korea, rare in other regions of the peninsula occupy the Zone,  Not having man around has been good for mother nature.

Of course, every once in awhile Bam! bi trips of a land mine.

I wonder how secret service protection would work in the DMZ, guards in the DMZ are trained black belts, because the zone is _demilitarized_, no firearms.  Maybe it wouldn't workSmile, and we would find out the hard way,Cry but no, then we would probably have to go to war for honor's sake, and personally I don't think it would be worth it.

I think flybys outside North Korean airspace, are probably the right level of pressure right now.

Junior's junior is punk?  I am not sure what that means.  The reason I heard about his hairdo, is that it adds three inches to his height.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2017 at 10:58
Originally posted by Dark Warrior Dark Warrior wrote:

Junior's junior remains a punk wannabe.i recommend an immediate B52 fly by exactly one mile out... out over the Sea and into international waters right on up the coast of the PRC.

Or have a attack class surface...in international waters..off the coast and let the PRC monitor a missile lock onto the DPRK....they will sh*tt into their rice bowls. And do nothing.

Being somewhat of a hawk, I tend to agree with you.

Better still if the were multiple "lock-ons" from many ships etc.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2017 at 10:56
Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

Smile
Trump's going to pee over the line.

What does that mean?
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